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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:14 AM
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Anyone Else Notice-Method if Violence in Iraq is Changing
I have really noticed this when I post the stuff that happens everyday over in Iraq.

There are fewer and fewer suicide bomber and more and more gunmen.

I have a feeling this may be an important thing - I'm just not sure why. Maybe that the insurgents are just getting better and better at what they do and suicide bombers aren't the most efficient way to go about it.

Or we simply are seeing a shift from "insurgent" attacks to sectarian violence more like just plain old civil war.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:16 AM
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1. C I V I L W A R

we have not won the war,they have.


The sooner we get out of there the better it will be.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:19 AM
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2. That is what is looks like to me, too.
60 people killed in Sadr City. And then dozens killed in Sunni areas.

I just don't think the govt. is putting that news out front. They don't want that pesky word "civil war" to be said out loud. But it sure looks to me like that is what we have here.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:23 AM
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3. We were told Vietnam was going through a civil war too
Funny thing is as soon as the USA presence there was gone there was no more civil war.

Just saying...

don
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:30 AM
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4. I don't know about fewer bombers
What I am noticing though, is that the Iraqis are killing fewer Americans and more Iraqis, if that isn't a civil war I don't know what is.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:37 AM
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7. Its called US trained El Salvador-style 'death squads'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1433353,00.html

El Salvador-style 'death squads' to be deployed by US against Iraq militants

THE Pentagon is considering forming hit squads of Kurdish and Shia fighters to target leaders of the Iraqi insurgency in a strategic shift borrowed from the American struggle against left-wing guerrillas in Central America 20 years ago.

Under the so-called “El Salvador option”, Iraqi and American forces would be sent to kill or kidnap insurgency leaders, even in Syria, where some are thought to shelter.

The plans are reported in this week’s Newsweek magazine as part of Pentagon efforts to get US forces in Iraq on to the front foot against an enemy that is apparently getting the better of them.

The Pentagon declined to comment, but one insider told Newsweek: “What everyone agrees is that we can’t just go on as we are. We have to find a way to take the offensive against the insurgents. Right now, we are playing defence. And we are losing.”

Hit squads would be controversial and would probably be kept secret.

The experience of the so-called “death squads” in Central America remains raw for many even now and helped to sully the image of the United States in the region.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:35 AM
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5. Fewer beheadings also, it seems...
If I recall correctly, there were several highly-publicized beheadings during the summer of 2004--right up to the election.

Nick Berg
Eugene Armstrong
Ronald Schulz
Others here

Then there were none...

I thought this odd...
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checkmate1947 Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:36 AM
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6. War changes people
The same thing occured in 'nam in the early days with buddist
burning themselves in public , then the VC or Viet Mien back
then decided they could fight a more aggressive insurget war,
which we were very slow to adapt to in the end we found that
you cannot fight an insurgent war in sombody else backyard,
but it took 54,000 people to die to figure it out, 
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