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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:23 AM
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BRAD BLOG: 2 New Suits Against Diebold & Friends, New Busby/Bilbray Stuff!
Two different all-new lawsuits against Diebold and friends announced today. With more, as we've reported, to come. Hope they have plenty of money for attorneys! Of course they do! And you're paying for them with your federal and state tax dollars! Enjoy!

EXCLUSIVE in the A.M. -- New developements in the Busby/Bilbray election fiasco hand count mess... Brad


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New Lawsuit Seeks Immediate Decertification of Diebold Systems in Georgia!
Cites Extraordinary Security Flaws Recently Discovered in Touch-Screen Systems Used in State


URL: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3062

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Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia Sued By Competitor for Patent Infringment!
Avante International Technology Corporation Files Suit Against Use of Paper Trail Printer, Op Scan Technology by Voting Machine Giants


URL: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3061

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CNN's Lou Dobbs: 'What happens when electronic voting machines fail?'
REP. JERROLD NADLER (D), NEW YORK: 'Do we care less about our voting machines than our ATM machines?'


VIDEO, TRANSCRIPT:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3058

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...and if you missed this yesterday, time to catch up, as there's more to come on this in the AM...

EXCLUSIVE: Busby/Bilbray Hand Count Requester Responds to San Diego County Registrar
Demands Chain of Custody Docs Be Supplied as Allowed by Law, Time to Review Them; Asks for Accounting for $150,000 Counting Fee and the $6000 Immediate, Up Front Demand by Registrar Mikel Haas


FULL LETTER TO REGISTRAR:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3055

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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:25 AM
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1. thanks again, any ideas of what I can do in Arkansas?
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 12:27 AM by jsamuel
Arkansas is getting taken over with machines. However, I think they have paper verified voting. I still would rather vote on paper.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:26 AM
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2. Thank you Brad.
This is the most important issue and we can't let them get away with it anymore
:kick: & R
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:28 AM
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3. Woodamnhoo!
Some good news on a bleak night.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:29 AM
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4. Brad, thanks for all your work
take care of yourself, too.


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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:31 AM
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5. .


;)

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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:32 AM
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6. This news makes me absolutely giddy!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Excellent job, BB! :toast:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:34 AM
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7. Excellent. Good news. Keep up the good work. K&R
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:40 AM
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8. Go Brad!
You got major props on Malloy tonight.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:08 AM
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9. K&R! (nt)
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:23 AM
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10. Tomorrow looks to be a big day. Eyes on the Prize. Ignore WH distractions.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:39 AM
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11. Great post. K&R!!! Pour it on!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 05:29 AM
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12. Excellent good news! Thanks Brad!
K&R
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 05:50 AM
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13. Just caught up with this post! Thanks so much for the news!
Heard an insane interview on CNN-radio going to work, some Bush Air Force toady saying how the UCMJ and the Geneva Conventions were hard to interpret, and people calling in, saying, "Just kill them all, they are not human, kill all the terrorists" (i.e., the prisoners in Guantanamo), and felt such despair. I try to be upbeat, try to believe that we can get our country back, if we stay focused on the mechanism of power--our vote. And I believe that most of the time. But something like this--a mass media show promulgating such lies and hatred, and no one in that interview, not the commentator nor the AF toady, pointing out that these prisoners have been in jail for 3 years without charge, many have been tortured, and many and possibly ALL are completely innocent--can cause you to think, "Did I already die, and wake up in Dante's Ninth Circle of Hell? Where is America?"

Brad, this post and your inspired work on election reform, were a great help to my spirit today! Thank you!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 06:27 AM
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14. Diebold: the 'what if' of an evil, nefarious person breaking the law is...
not our problem!

Amazing quote (from the first BB link above, re: the GA lawsuit): "Diebold Election Systems spokesperson David Bear says Hursti's findings do not represent a fatal vulnerability in Diebold technology, but simply note the presence of a feature that allows access to authorized technicians to periodically update the software. If it so happens that someone not supposed to use the machine' or an election official who wants to put his or her thumb on the scale of democracy 'takes advantage of this fast track to fraud, that's not Diebold's problem. throwing out a 'what if' that's premised on a basis of an evil, nefarious person breaking the law, says Bear."

(Sorry, a font glitch at BB makes it impossible to know exactly where quotation marks should go: URL: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3062 )

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(Exact quote, and citation--for those who need it:)

"As to the threat, David Bear, a spokesman for Diebold Election Systems, said, 'For there to be a problem here, you're basically assuming a premise where you have some evil and nefarious election officials who would sneak in and introduce a piece of software . . . . I don't believe these evil elections people exist.'"

New Fears of Security Risks in Electronic Voting Systems, Monica Davey, New York Times, May 12, 2006.
http://www.gaforverifiedvoting.org/action.htm

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"I don't believe these evil elections people exist." --David Bear, Diebold

It's kind of like the Air Force toady I heard on CNN, who said that the UCMJ and the Geneva Conventions are "hard to interpret." War crimes law operates on the premise that there ARE "evil, nefarious" persons who WILL commit war crimes. We learned that in WW II. That's why we HAVE war crime law. If everybody was a saint, you wouldn't have to ban torture. And torture--like election fraud--a) is not all that difficult to recognize, and b) the perps ALWAYS try to cover it up. TRANSPARENCY is the key to prevention. If POWs have legal rights--right to a lawyer, access to real courts--it's much more difficult to mistreat them. Same with elections. If votes are counted in the open, where all can see, it's much more difficult to steal elections. Provide "evil, nefarious" persons with a back door to vote stealing, and they WILL take it. To assume otherwise is to be the most stupid people on God's earth.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 08:13 AM
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18. Note on the Diebold quote in my post #14 (above):
The font confusion problem made it difficult to cite this quote properly. Here's how it appears at BB:

“Diebold Election Systems spokesperson David Bear says Hursti's findings do not represent a fatal vulnerability in Diebold technology, but simply note the presence of a feature that allows access to authorized technicians to periodically update the software. If it so happens that someone not supposed to use the machine—or an election official who wants to put his or her thumb on the scale of democracy—takes advantage of this fast track to fraud, that's not Diebold's problem. ‘ throwing out a 'what if' that's premised on a basis of an evil, nefarious person breaking the law,’ says Bear.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:14 PM
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21. (at BB, clicking "PRINT VERSION" sometimes clears those "font glitches"
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 02:31 PM by tiptoe
...sometimes not.)


example of choosing "print version"...when it works:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3060&print=1
California Election Code 15622 states: The request may specify the order in which the precincts shall be recounted.


vs the original displayed text:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3060
California Election Code 15622 states: “The request may specify the order in which the precincts shall be recounted.”


Thanx for your excellent reports and commentary!!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 06:45 AM
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15. Elections dragged into the muck of private corporate property wars...
Privatization and corporatization of our election system has perils no one even thought of--beyond the obvious, such as TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY vote tabulation software. Witness the second BB link (above) about one private company suing the others for infringement of patent on "Voter Verified Paper Audit Trail" (VVPAT) technology. How is it that our elections--the foundation of our democracy--could be caught up in the middle of a corporate fight about WHO OWNS THE VOTING SYSTEM.

I'm all for grief and confusion to the Enemy--in this case, the "evil nefarious" persons at Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia--but I also see what a NIGHTMARE this is, for our democracy, that PRIVATE PARTIES *OWN* our vote-counting technology! It's NUTS!

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Inventor of Electronic Voting Verification System Takes Industry Giants to Court for Patent Infringement

"Wednesday July 12, 11:19 am ET
"SimmonsCooper Files Lawsuit on Behalf of AVANTE International Technology Corporation

"EAST ALTON, Ill., July 12 /PRNewswire/ SimmonsCooper LLC has filed a lawsuit against the three largest voting machine manufacturers for infringing AVANTE International Technology Corporation's Voter Verifiable Paper Audit Trail (VVPAT) and optical scan patents.

"Named in the suit are Diebold Election Systems, Election Systems & Software, Inc. (ES&S), and Sequoia Voting Systems. The suit was filed on behalf of Kevin Chung, CEO of Avante International Technology Corporation, Inc., who invented VVPAT...." (*Note: VVPAT = "Voter Verified Paper Audit Trail")

(MORE)

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3061

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*(Corporatespeak for: BALLOT. VOTE.)

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:41 PM
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23. A patent on VVPAT?
That's like having a patent on election recounts.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 07:49 AM
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16. The highly corrupt "culture of secrecy" fostered by HAVA, re: CA-50
The so-called "Help America Vote Act" of 2002--as evil and nefarious a piece of legislation as there ever was--did many terrible things to our voting system, nationwide. It flooded the system with money--with millions of dollars in unregulated lavish lobbying, and a $4 billion federal boondoggle with which to bully, bribe and entice hasty purchase by the states of untested and extremely hackable electronic voting systems. The money did its work. We now have entrenched corruption among local/state election officials from one end of the country to the other. (And where election officials are not purchasable, they are threatened--as with Ion Sancho in Florida--or driven from office--as with Kevin Shelley in California.) Prime examples of this corruption are Connie McCormack (Los Angeles) and Cathy Cox (Georgia)--public officials in charge of elections who do sales brochures for Diebold.

But a subtler form of corruption also occurred: the culture of secrecy that was created around our elections, by the introduction of private corporations whose PRIVATE interest in voting technology takes precedence over election integrity, for instance, in the demand by these corporations for the STATE to protect THEIR TRADE SECRET PROGRAMMING in the voting machines. No one--not even our secretaries of state--is permitted to review this TRADE SECRET code.

The culture of corruption involves money and laws, but also involves the PSYCHOLOGY of election officials. I'm thinking of a particular incident that sticks in my mind. A public voting rights advocate in California, Kim Alexander, who runs a public information web site on electronics in government, criticized paperless electronic voting systems (which are un-auditable, un-recountable and thus unverifiable). Connie McCormack, head of elections in Los Angeles (and a Diebold shill), replied, "She's not an expert."

She's not an expert. Think about the EXCLUSIVENESS of this remark. Even if Alexander were NOT a citizen expert on technology, and highly knowledgeable about voting systems--say, she was just your average Jane voter, who thought that an UNVERIFIABLE election system was, oh...unwise? undemocratic? real stupid policy?---what should it matter that she is "not an expert"? She's a VOTER. She's a CITIZEN. She's an AMERICAN. She PAYS TAXES. She is HAVING WARS COMMITTED IN HER NAME. Why should she have to be "an expert" in order to understand how her vote is being counted?

And what has this GREAT DIVIDE between the voters--the theoretical sovereigns of this land--and "the experts," who perform the electronic voodoo of vote counting, behind a curtain of corporate secrecy--done to our election system and to our democracy? It is corrosive in the extreme. I'm sure it was intended--by the criminals who engineered HAVA (Tom Delay, Bob Ney, Christopher Dodd and assorted Bushites and Bushite electronic voting corporations), and it results in items like this, in the CA-50 recount effort...

The voter who requested "chain of custody" items on the CA-50 election, in order to prepare for a recount, wrote the following to the San Diego registrar of voters:

"I requested the public examination of a number of relevant materials in my original request for the manual hand count, dated July 5, 2006. **You state that your staff is continuing to examine the request to determine which materials are relevant to a recount.** Even cursory review of Secretary of State McPhersons 2006 directives regarding the use of DRE voting technologies, and the relevant federal regulations, make it clear that all materials requested by me under the authority of Elections Code section 15630 are plainly and obviously relevant to a recount." (emphasis added)
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3055

You state that your staff is continuing to examine the request to determine which materials are relevant to a recount.

The "materials" of an election are being treated as PRIVATE PROPERTY--and the election officials involved are ACTING LIKE PRIVATE PARTIES, as if they have a right to WITHHOLD, to be selective about, to control and to determine the relevancy of the components of an election. As if it were no longer a PUBLIC MATTER. It's almost as if, somehow, national security and terrorists were involved. And we, the voters, are the terrorists.

The secrecy, of course--always, and without exception--is masking corruption. That's what secrecy is FOR. Not to insure the integrity of an election--or any good. But to hide what corrupt officials are doing. There is simply no other reason why election materials should be the PRIVATE POSSESSION of the county registrar and NOT INSTANTLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, on demand. You shouldn't have to write a legal letter or institute a lawsuit, to see election materials.

But that's what HAVA has done. It has created a culture of secrecy in which we, the voters, are the ENEMY. Hostility to the public is by no means a new thing. The more that corporations have taken over our government, the more hostile our public officials have become to US, the people who pay their salaries. I've seen it in California on other issues. But "the voter as enemy," and the secrecy around our most fundamental right and duty--the bottom line of our democracy, voting--has been newly enforced and promoted by this brand new, direct corporate control of the voting technology, engineered by the Anthrax Congress. And it is an alarming development, to say the least.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 08:07 AM
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17. "We're working on spending federal money..." Jeez.
"PAUL DEGREGORIO, CHAIRMAN, ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMM.: We believe that it is very important that these guidelines and any kind of standards be improved all the time, and we're working on spending federal money to do that because we want voters to have trust and confidence in the voting process in America."
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3058

Lies within lies within lies within lies. The nearly $4 billion in federal (Tom Delay appropriated) boondoggle money for Bushite electronic voting corporations--provided by the misnamed "Help America Vote Act"--was NOT intended to give voters "trust and confidence in the voting process in America." Not one dime of it has been spent for that purpose. It has been used to ENTIRELY CORRUPT our election system, and to COVER UP THAT CORRUPTION with bullshit from people like DeGregorio.

I'm not sorry that the bullshit about electronic voting machine failures was given exposure by this Lou Dobbs Show, and that Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) offered a brilliant quip ("Do we care less about our voting machines than our ATMs?") (--really, that was a good one, Jerry!). BUT, BUT, BUT... why all this dancing around the fundamental issue of CORPORATIZATION of our election system? Corporations ALWAYS lie and coverup about shoddy goods. If you privatize elections, that's what WILL happen. Lies, lies and more lies. And if you add in the tight BUSHITE connections of these corporations, and their TRADE SECRETS, what can you EXPECT but stolen elections? It's a no-brainer.

It's not about failure rates. It's about privatization, corruption, secrecy and illegal wars!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 08:49 AM
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19. kick'n it!
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 10:33 AM
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20. Thanks Brad! n/t
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:38 PM
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22. K and R! n/t
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