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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:03 AM
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For those claiming Tasini (Hilary Challenger) is a Green
A cool picture:



"Team Tasini gets ready to deliver the petitions to the Board of Elections in Albany tomorrow."

Notice the "Gore Lieberman" signs in the background as well as many others.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:04 AM
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1. Well that's proof enough for me
:eyes:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:18 AM
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4. Shouldn't the fact that he is running as a Dem be enough?
I mean, what is the criteria for being a Democrat? Other than being a goddamn democrat!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:24 AM
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10. Honestly, I'm not that heavily invested in this race, but Tasini's
campaigning style really irks me. I intensely dislike it when democrats savage fellow democrats in the primaries. Up till now, I've heard nothing from this fellow, other than what a scoundral HRC is. He needs to explain why he thinks he's qualified to be a US Senator and what he stands for. Once he's done that, then maybe I'll take him seriously enough to hear why he thinks he can do a better job than the sitting Senator.

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:33 AM
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13. Calling people on their voting record is what a challenger does.
The incumbant can pretend to take the high road because she is already well-known. Continuing the lie that Tasini is somehow "green" is much dirtier politics because it is a lie. Those of us in NY know that Tasini is very well qualified and is a great progressive. The man really has his feet on the ground and fights for what is right. He will serve NY well. Hillary, on the other hand, is a little preoccupied by presidential ambition.

If Hillary wins, that's fine. But calling someone a "green" is dirty politics these days. It's saying someone is a shill for Bush and Tasini is by no means that.
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:37 AM
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16. Check his website
http://www.tasinifornewyork.org/

I think *what he stands for* is explained there very well.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:53 AM
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21. You would think so.
But here in Washington we had a guy running in the Dem primary against Cantwell who had had two earlier runs -- once as a Green and once as a Libertarian. And his positions now were basically what they had been then -- as a member of those other parties.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:52 AM
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24. that seems like an odd mix
I would expect libertarian positions to be radically different from Green positions.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:29 AM
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25. I know. A very odd mix.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:07 AM
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2. As if Green were evil. Is this called green-baiting?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:14 AM
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3. The last thing Democrats want is for Greens to change their
registration to "Democrat"?!

Or, am I getting that wrong?

lol
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:19 AM
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7. come on over
the more the merrier.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:25 AM
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11. Nah. I'm going to be pissed at Tasini for selling out.
(Kidding, of course.)

:hi:
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:24 AM
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8. I think they fear a non-corporate agenda.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:58 AM
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22. I think it's fine for them to change their registrations to Democrat
as long as they plan to remain Democrats even if their preferred candidates don't win the primary.

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:19 AM
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5. A DLC campaign to discredit Tasini-- who is a DEMOCRAT! /nt
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:19 AM
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6. Someday, Greens may be a force in New York-but its not today....
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 01:29 AM by Rowdyboy
Her lock on that senate seat is amazing.

I'm more interested in those candidates with a real chance of stopping Senator Clinton in her likely run for the Democratic nomination in 2008.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:24 AM
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9. Is it amazing? Once you've been hooked up in Washington
don't you and your kin tend to stay that way?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:35 AM
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15. Just think how incestuous the whole thing is....Hillary Clinton's brother
Hugh is married to Barbara Boxer's daughter, if I'm not mistaken. Thats just an example. Apparently, nearly every congressional spouse of either party appears to have a "plum" job. Once you get elected, no one in your family need worry again.

Nauseating.
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:33 AM
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12. It's not locked anymore
Perhaps Tasini will do to Clinton what Ned Lamont has just done to Lieberman in Connecticut, i.e. offer a REAL challenge...at least that's what I'm hoping.

While gathering signatures to place Tasini on the ballot, I was surprised how many people had never even heard of him. I think that will all change in the next two months.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:39 AM
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17. If you'd said Lieberman would be in trouble one month before the primary
last spring, I'd have thought you were dotty. Now he's trailing. Its gonna be an interesting election.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:11 AM
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28. I want to say THANK YOU for helping Tasini
Because I think NYers need an alternative.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:35 AM
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14. For the love of God TASINI IS NOT A GREEN!
Who gives a good goddamn about greens! Tasini is an old-school progressive Dem labor activist!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:43 AM
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19. I really apologise....I didn't read your posts before spouting off....
I always regret spreading misinformation. Our enemies do a good enough job of that.



















our

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:51 AM
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20. Sorry, I thought that had been established. I was going off topic.
My bad.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:39 AM
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18. Does NY have closed primaries?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:07 AM
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23. Then what's with the green paper then huh?
It's a conspiracy I tell ya!

:sarcasm:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 07:21 AM
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26. If I still lived in New York City I'd cast an enthusiastic vote for
Jonathan Tasini in the primary and a dutiful vote for Senator Clinton in the general.

I think November is going to be real blue in the Empire State on November 7th.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 07:28 AM
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27. Tasini used to be a Green. Hillary used to be a Republican
One is anti-war the other isn't.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:06 PM
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29. Tasini is a democrat.
He is running in a democratic primary. A number of people who support his opponent have been increasingly pushing the "Tasini is a Green" misinformation as the vote comes closer. There are only two reasons they would do this: {1} they are purposefully lying, or {2} they are ignorantly repeating a lie. Either way, they discredit themselves.

I think that there are Clinton supporters who are concerned not so much that she will not win the primary, but that Mr. Tasini will make a loud and clear statement. She does not want to be identified with the neoconservative democratis senator, Lieberman. However, because she channels the Bush-Cheney-AIPAC message that we can't afford to begin a withdrawal from Iraq, more voters in this state may view her similarly to old Joe.
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