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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 11:01 PM
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So if the ME get worst, Will we have to start the DRAFT?
I mean our military is tapped... if we just start to go and support the attack of Iran, Syria, and well maybe we may even go and fight in Afganistan too.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 11:04 PM
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1. Don't worry the world's going to end. Anyways, Bush will stretch
out the military but he won't institute a draft.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 05:43 PM
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16. not 'til after fall elections anyways. Stretch military 'til after then.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 11:05 PM
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2. I would think at a minimum, the Reserves and National Guard would
be fully mobilized. But most of their equipment is in Iraq so I don't know where they would get new equipment. As for the draft, it would probably be dusted off and ready to implement at a moments notice. Again, where do we get the equipment to outfit the new units and replacements?
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 11:10 PM
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3. Implementing a draft would be political suicide
I dont see it happening.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 11:13 PM
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4. Well, they are already
scraping the bottom of the barrel... For instance, many more soldiers have some criminal record and history of psychological problems when they are accepted...
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 11:20 PM
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5. Could be. I mean, when the violence escalated in the ME, CNN...
...showed some "helpful stats" that in Israel, ALL citizens are drafted from the age of 17.

Now why would they send this subliminal message? Could it be they've received the Rovian playbook to start laying the groundwork for a coming draft?

Or were they just being informative and helpful?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:21 AM
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13. On our local Right Wing Radio Stations...
I've noticed many "Do the right thing and register for the Draft at 18." ads.

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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 05:41 PM
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15. Draft Ads on a Rightwing Radio Station? They're wastin' their money there!
Republican rightwing-nuts are all pro-war, just as long as they don't have to fight in one themselves.

Then again, registering for the draft could mean they're campaigning, and petitioning to get enough signatures to present to Congress that "America favors a draft by xx%" in the hope Congress will institute a draft without committing political suicide.

That would be shrewd and sneaky-clever.



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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:05 AM
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6. it`s all ready to go
conyers has the bill on his desk just waiting for the republicans to act. yup it`s up to the republicans to authorize the draft. conyers wants to force their vote on this issue and i for one hope he does.
if the draft is reinstated all hell is going to break loose across america...remember the majority of kids are either grand kids or kids of the nam era....shit will hit the fan
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zcflint09 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:15 AM
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7. if the draft is instituted...
you'll see me in canada. my family (i'm 19) has a fairly decent backup plan for myself including extended family in ontario, and something like a 10,000 savings account set aside for emergencies. even if i'm not called, once they announce it's started, i'll be out of here.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:16 PM
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18. Canada not an option anymore
College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing ea! ch country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter.
Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current
semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/draft.htm
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 03:12 AM
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8. I have been worried all week: my nephew (only nephew) is 19.
I am worried that if the draft were to start, he would be called up. If it does, I am going to urge him to either go to school in Canada or Australia or Ireland or else join the Coast Guard, where he would be more out of harm's way and actually doing a public service.
This is hard for me to write, since I am a six year Navy veteran -- but it was in the late 70s and early 80s, so we were "safe", even with Raygun's dementia...the DOD and SOS pretty much kept him in check, I think. I worry about the current admin dreadfully, though. It's sad when you had rather prefer someone with Alzheimers than the current president and his advisors...
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 03:15 AM
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9. Sounds like I better get fitted for my prison whites
NT
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 03:30 AM
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10. That will never happen.
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 03:33 AM by GreenTea
Last thing BushCo wants is people out in the streets protesting (which would happen with a draft) they are quite aware of this...so keep outsourcing jobs, keep unemployment high, hire mercenary criminals at a 100K a pop, Bring on the skinheads and the like, military or prison "recruits", count on technological weapons, wave citizenship for undocumented workers to fight, recruitment picks up thousands each month, force existing troops to stay longer, make college impossible for poor kids to afford, etc...

They may still have a problem...But there will be no draft. People have been saying there would be for years, ain't gonna happen...it would unite the passive masses...BushCo knows this and would never allow it to happen.

They'll continue to find other ways...don't sit around hoping and thinking a draft is going to happen, no way.
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PatriotMom Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 05:12 AM
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11. My family and I will fight right here at home not ...
Not somewhere else if it comes to that. I would not fight for this administration nor would my children but we all would fight for this country and our homes.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:14 AM
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12. This country can't afford to fight on another front. We are broke
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:37 AM
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14. I don't think so. Midterm elections. Not a winning policy, esp. with
Charlie Rangel having a bill already to be debated concerning UNIVERSAL constriction (no exceptions for rich, white boys in college).
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:02 PM
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17. The draft would be the end
of these neo-cons war mongering. The draft is what fueled the anti war movement in the 60's and 70's and the anti war movement is what eventually helped bring the Viet Nam war to its end. The same thing would happen now and they know it. That is why they won't touch it till after midterms anyway. After that, all bets are off. They want war, there can be no denying that, can they keep even the ones they started, not to mention any new fighting on more fronts with the army they have is another question all together.
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