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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:06 AM
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Whatever happened to Ariel Sharon ?
last i heard, wasn't he in a coma or something ? anyone know what is current condition is ?

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:08 AM
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1. He is in a permanent vegetative state.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:12 PM
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33. So is our pResident.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:09 AM
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2. no one has exactly said, but my guess is that he is in a permanent
vegitative state


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melnjones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:09 AM
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3. I'm an idiot, so nevermind. eom
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 12:09 AM by melnjones
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:18 AM
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4. How strange that the two biggest asses in those states, who as
far as I'm concerned kept the conflict going, Arafat and Sharon, are no longer with us but the hell they created rages on without them with no restraint whatsoever now.

Maybe I was wrong about them and they did keep the lid on the seething pot of ethnic hatred after all while they were in power.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:25 AM
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:27 AM
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6. Well I guess all those children on both sides deserved it.
Or is it only the Arab children that deserved it?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:32 AM
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:40 AM
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10. I think you mean the Michael Medved forum
I'm sure Michael would welcome him with open arms.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:38 AM
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:41 AM
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11. How is that racist?
It is no different than posters here who have said essentially the same thing about the "Israeli plight." Was it because he said Arab and not Palestinian?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:48 AM
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14. It's racist because he is supporting one culture and advocating
the destruction of another.

That's the definition of racism.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:51 AM
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16. What post are you reading?
I saw nothing advocating the destruction of the Arabs. I saw a lack of sympathy for their plight, but that in of itself is not racist. If your "definition" is accurate than their are lots of racists plaguing this board, mostly against Israelis. So, if he had said Palestinians instead of Arabs, would that be different?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:10 PM
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32. It's racist because it was deleted.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:49 AM
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15. And therein lies the problem
It's exactly the same as what some have written about the Israeli plight.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:54 AM
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17. But is that really racism?
I certainly don't advocate the destruction of any race or ethnic group, or feel that one is better than another (that is racism), but if you are declaring that it is racism for the ones who say the same things about Israelis, you will get "creamed" for that opinion.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:36 AM
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24. It's not racist, but it's totally insensitive...
The motivations for that insensitivity could be down to different things, like racism or frustration at an unending conflict. To not give a shit about the plight of one people while giving a shit about what happens to others stinks no matter which people it's aimed at...
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:04 AM
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19. that is an appallingly hate-filled remark, and not something I would
expect to see on DU, I don't care who you are. despite some of the drivel I have been reading today, israel is not without blame in this horror, either, so you better take off your blinders.

as the women of the various israeli-palestinian peace movements are saying, it no longer matters who is right or wrong, it has to stop NOW.

flame if you will, but I found your comment offensive.

for your edification, you might want to read the history of the state of which you are so defensive, it just might open your eyes, and your heart, a bit, because it certainly isn't a pretty one--"when god was a woman" by merlin stone.

THEN come back and talk to me about how israel has right on its side.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:16 AM
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20. Re: when god was a woman, by Merlin Stone...
Great book....I wish I could get nearly everyone to read it...
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:21 AM
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22. I'm about halfway through it
Wonderful book! Very enlightening!
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:40 AM
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26. most definitely. I reread it regularly--especially this last week.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:39 AM
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25. as do I--I have a copy that is constantly on loan (I also have one copy
that NEVER goes out) truly an eye-opener.

have you read robin morgan's "the demon lover"? the chapter on the camps is heartbreaking, and I wish everyone HAD to read it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:46 AM
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27. re: Morgan's book
The Demon Lover. I haven't read it but, will check it out, for sure. Thx for the tip.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:50 AM
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28. let me know what you think (email, if you like) when you have finished--it
is another one where I have one copy always on loan to somebody, it is that profound.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:52 AM
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29. "at the well of sarah and hagar"

it's a real pity that you haven't seen this amazing piece as I did, or even thought about all the work that israeli and palestinian women are doing jointly to try to find an end to the horrors going on there. as they both said during the presentation, it no longer matters who is right or wrong, it simply has to stop.

Peace Talk, The Female Way
by Stephanie Hiller

Against a background of bloodshed and death portrayed via film and slides, three women from the land of "holiness and conflict" enacted an alternative to the violent conflict in the Middle East in a performance that toured the US in February 2006.

'By the Well of Sarah and Hagar' is a "sacred theatrical collage sharing the journeys of two women, Muslim and Jew", according to the flyer for the event. In this little play, a Palestinian woman and an Israeli approach each other in pain to extend the hand of reconciliation. The third woman - Mia Cohen - who holds a large mirror, introduces herself as the witness. "I am you."

The two women, Ibtisum Mahamid and Dorit Bat Shalom, play themselves - two women of war-torn Palestine and Israel. This collaborative effort by the three women - Mahamid, Shalom and Cohen - works at many levels.

Mahamid tells her story - the expulsion of her family during Al-Nakba (the refugee flight of Palestinian Arabs during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war).

Footage taken by an Israeli father whose son was killed in the intifada - and shown at the beginning of the performance - tells the other side of the story. As Shalom explained during the discussion following the performance, the conflict is a complex story; what the women have in common is their pain. Shalom herself turned to peace work after her brother was killed in the 1967 Six Day War.

"Israeli and Palestinian women can come together because they have the same problem: they feel unsafe. Something inside tells them not to forget the past, but not to get stuck in it. What can we do together to change it.

. . . . . . . . .

http://www.boloji.com/wfs5/wfs560.htm

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:28 AM
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7. it might have been that when it was the two of them
things were more viewed as Sharon vs Arafat which it was a lot of the time.

but i agree, they do deserve a lot of blame for preventing anything good from happening, especially in earlier years. they certainly were no Anwar Sadat and Yitzahk Rabin.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:37 AM
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30. Funny, I was thinking the same thing
That the biggest obstacles holding back any peace progress there was those two and things would get done with both of them out of the way. Turns out things are a lot deeper than that.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:43 AM
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12. He is doing penance (nt)
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 12:44 AM by ConsAreLiars
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SummerGrace Donating Member (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:43 AM
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13. In a coma in a clinic in Tel Aviv
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 12:45 AM by SummerGrace
Sharon missing from the fray
From Ian MacKinnon, in Jerusalem

ONE man is missing from the military crisis. Far from the sound and fury of battle on the Israeli-Lebanese border, Ariel Sharon lies in a coma in a clinic in a Tel Aviv suburb.

The former Israeli Prime Minister, once a general and a war hero, has been on hand for almost every decisive moment in the country's short history, but is absent from the fray.

Instead, his sons Omri and Gilad and his wife, Inbal, take it in turns to watch over the 78-year-old in his bright room with its picture window in the Sheba Medical Centre. Close friends of the former leader occasionally gather outside the room to greet the family and reminisce.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2270914,00.html
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:19 AM
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 03:14 AM
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31. I'm not sure. Perhaps if you asked those same questions about "Israel"
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 03:22 AM by impeachdubya
more folks might understand what you're talking about.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:01 AM
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18. He's dreaming of Qibya. n/t
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:28 AM
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23. And their sisters Sabra and Shatila n/t
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 03:07 PM
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34. He is waiting for an opening in Hell.
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