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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 05:59 PM
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Where does China's oil supply come from -- which country?
Right now I am trying to ignore the magician -- and see what is happening in the background.

I think that most of China's oil comes from Iran and I think I remember oil pipelines going from Iran to China. What if part of the war plans for Iran are to destroy the oil pipelines and oil producing equipment -- not merely the Nuclear facilities??

What if in the middle of the US plans to attack Iran -- Israel's untested leadership just decided to hurry up and take care of their own business?


What I am thinking is that none of what is happening now is the main objective -- the main objective is CHINA. Israel is an emotional trigger for many Americans -- but the Cheney/rummy branch of the NeoCons could really care less about Israel -- they pride themselves in Global thinking -- long term planning. While they play the magician's trick of keeping us focused on the smoke and flash -- they are busy in the background with grander plans. Bush is a dimwitted nincompoop -- and he serves to focus our attention. Why doesn't bush act? Because he doesn't have a clue about what is really happening in the world -- he only knows what a few select people tell him. To him the world is only shadows on a cave -- once removed -- the shadows are described by his aids and handlers.

Iran has close ties with Russia, China and India.

To the cold war warriors (chicken Hawk Cheney & Rummy) -- China -- a.k.a. RED China was alway the unknown. Lots of cold war military spending was aimed at China -- squadrons of spy planes flew over Red China.

NOW today China is the biggest supplier of consumer good to the US. Also China holds a lot of our debt (along with Japan).

So we are tied to Iran -- through China. Disrupt China's oil and she just might retaliate.

As quick google search seems to support my hunches:

A report by the U.S.-China Security Review Commission, a group created by Congress, warned that China's increasing need for imported energy has given it an incentive to become closer to countries supporting terrorism like Iran, Iraq and Sudan:

"A key driver in China's relations with terrorist-sponsoring governments is its dependence on foreign oil to fuel its economic development. This dependency is expected to increase over the coming decade."

China's relations with state sponsors of terrorism has provided these countries a great deal of money, allowing them to continue to harbor terrorist organizations and to maintain a policy of oppression and exploitation of their people. China is the number one oil and gas importer from Iran. The two countries are bound by energy deals reaching a total value of $120 billion and growing. While the U.S. and EU were forging a diplomatic strategy to halt Iran’s nuclear program, China signed in October 2004 its largest energy deal with Iran ever and promised to block any American attempt to refer Iran’s nuclear program to the UN Security Council. This may indicate not only that China is interested in a militarily strong, even nuclear Iran that dominates the Gulf but also that for China, energy security considerations trump international cooperation on critical global security issues. In addition to its special relations with Iran, China is also known to be a provider of WMD technologies to rouge states including North Korea, Syria, Libya and Sudan.

China also provides conventional weapons that could threaten U.S. military forces securing the Persian Gulf. Of particular concern are China's sales to Iran of anti-ship cruise missiles, which pose a threat to oil tanker traffic and American naval vessels operating there. This arms trafficking presents an increasing threat to U.S. global security interests, particularly in the Middle East and Asia.


http://www.iags.org/china.htm

Institute for the Analysis of Global Security

Here's something else from the same source: Chinese gasoline prices now rank among the lowest in the world for oil-importing countries, and are a third of retail prices in Europe and Japan, where steep taxes are imposed to discourage gasoline use.


Here's the persecutive from a US Government website:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/china.html

With China's expectation of growing future dependence on oil imports, the country has been acquiring interests in exploration and production abroad. CNPC has acquired oil concessions in Azerbaijan, Canada, Kazakhstan, Venezuela, Sudan, Indonesia, Iraq, and Iran. The Greater Nile Petroleum Operating Company (GNPOC), the Sudanese oil project in which CNPC owns a stake, began exports in August 1999, and CNPC's equity oil from the project is around 150,000 bbl/d. Sinopec also has begun purchasing overseas oil assets, with its most notable success being a contract for the development of Iran's Yadavaran oil field signed in November 2004. Yadavaran may eventually produce 300,000 barrels per day. Sinopec also acquired a 40 percent stake in Canada's Northern Lights oil sands project in May 2005, which is expected to produce around 100,000 bbl/d by 2010. CNOOC also has purchased an upsteam equity stake in the small Malacca Strait oilfield in Indonesia, and made an unsuccessful offer to purchase Unocal in May 2005. For all the attention given to Chinese firms' investments in overseas oil assets, though, their total current contribution to China's oil imports is well under 300,000 bbl/d as of mid-2005, a small amout compared to imports currently running at around 3.5 million bbl/d. Despite efforts to diversify its sources of supply, roughly half of China's imported oil comes from the Middle East, with Saudi Arabia alone accounting for 17 percent in the first quarter of 2005.

The most significant deal thus far is CNPC's acquisition of a 60 percent stake in the Kazakh oil firm Aktobemunaigaz, which came with a pledge to invest significantly in the company's future development over the next twenty years. The Kazakh and Chinese governments signed an agreement in May 2004 for the construction of a $700 million pipeline to export Kazakh crude oil into western China. The pipeline would run from Atasu in central Kazakhstan to Xinjiang, supplying three refineries with about 200,000 bbl/d of crude oil. The projected completion date for the pipeline is December 2005.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:21 PM
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1. I think that most of China's oil comes from Iran
You own post tells you that statement is inaccurate

The most significant deal thus far is CNPC's acquisition of a 60 percent stake in the Kazakh oil firm Aktobemunaigaz, which came with a pledge to invest significantly in the company's future development over the next twenty years. The Kazakh and Chinese governments signed an agreement in May 2004 for the construction of a $700 million pipeline to export Kazakh crude oil into western China. The pipeline would run from Atasu in central Kazakhstan to Xinjiang, supplying three refineries with about 200,000 bbl/d of crude oil. The projected completion date for the pipeline is December 2005.

Kazakhstan is not Iran.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:23 PM
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2. Kazakhstan Is A Former Soviet Republic
And isn't oil a fungible commodity that is bought and sold on the world msrket.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:41 PM
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3. USA ready to aid Kazakhstan in nuclear power plant
GAZETA.KZ ::> USA ready to aid Kazakhstan in nuclear power plant ...
The USA is ready to aid Kazakhstan if it decides to construct a nuclear power plant. John Ordway, US ambassador to Kazakhstan, made such statement at a ...
eng.gazeta.kz/art.asp?aid=75115 - 25k
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 06:45 PM
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4. The whole premise of the post is China built a pipeline to Iran
which is not correct and China gets most of it's oil from Iran.

For that to happen it would need to go though Afghanistan, which obviously will not happen

Actually, China gets most of it's oil imports from SA.
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