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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 06:18 PM
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Targeting Terrorist Elements By Bombing Civilians
Recently, a DUer sympathetic to the Israeli side of the argument wrote:

they are bombing elements that support Hezbollah...

they are targeting terrorist elements, regardless of your effort to characterize it otherwise. Tragically, civilian casualties have resulted, however, unlike Hezbollah, they do not deliberately target civilians.


Meanwhile, in today's New York Post (check it out) you have a huge headline
something about "ISRAELI BOMBS SMASH TERRORISTS"

...with a big picture showing an Israeli girl writing "a message for the terrorists" on an Israeli missile.

The very same article quotes how many terrorists and civilians "sympathetic to Hezbollah" have been targeted by Israli missiles.

How is this any different from what Hezbollah is doing? Especially when you consider that Israel's civilian-to-legitimate target ratio is NO BETTER than the Islamists?? Cui bono? Think, people!!

NY Post and pro-Israeli Evangelicals would have you believe that terrorist has NOTHING to do with attacking civilians. It has everything to do with identity -- ethnic and religious. They want to LEGITIMIZE attacking civilians.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 10:44 PM
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1. Nonsense
Especially when you consider that Israel's civilian-to-legitimate target ratio is NO BETTER than the Islamists??

Hezbollah rockets are yet to hit anything except civilians and open space. (N rockets/0 legitimate targets) if Israel hit just one, they would have an infinitely higher ratio (anything over 0 is undefined).

Math lesson aside, the IDF initial targets were transportation and communication infrastructure. Valid targets. They have leafleted prior to going after launch sites and storage areas as well. Considering the amount of ordinance expended, the civilian casualties are surprisingly light.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 10:46 PM
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2. Surprisingly light
tell that to the casualties.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 10:52 PM
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3. Casualties are never good
but not to acknowledge that they are light given the circumstances would be incorrect. There are those who are claiming that the IAF is deliberately targeting civilians. If that were true there would be casualties many thousand casualties. Their hyperbole is not contributing to rationale discourse. Its not that I support what Israel is doing, but false claims are not going to make things any better. I have no problem calling the OP on his screed
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 11:11 PM
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4. IAF or hezbollah
if you know the enemy is hiding in a bunch of civlians and you bomb them then you are intentionally targeting civilians. Period. Nobody is blameless. The side with the upper hand has to be humane enough to stop it or alter their tactics. If israel wants to find these mobile rocket launchers then they should roll in with tanks and shoot them when they find them. They're not going to stop them by bombing whole suburbs. They're just creating the next generation of enemies.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 11:36 PM
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5. Funny how you people never get worked up every time a bus is blown up in
Jerusalem or Haifa or some other Israeli city, killing innocent civilians - women and children, like has happend THOUSANDS of times for, what, 60 years, now!

But, my, how you are all weepy and woeful for the TERRORISTS all of a sudden!

VERY telling!
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