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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:18 PM
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Why was it a good idea to make stranded US citizens pay for their own
evacuation, when they are caught in hostile locations overseas? :grr:

Whose stupid ass idea was THAT?? :grr:

When the hell did this pass Congress?? :grr:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:19 PM
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1. My guess is it was to discourage people from going to dangerous places
in the first place. While I don't think these people should have to pay to get out, I can see circumstances where I might consider making people pay.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:32 PM
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9. I don't think it was all that dangerous until the Israelis started
indescriminately bombing the country. Why did this start again? Oh yes, the capture on one Israeli soldier. While that is a serious issue, he was in the military and bad things frequently happen to those in the military. But apparently that justified killing of a family on a beach. And now it justifies blowing up the entire infrastructure of Lebanon.

Every time I hear the old "Israel just wants to live in peace" shit I just laugh. Be honest folks, Israel just wants to be able to take the best land, control the area's water supply, and have the taxpayers of the United States hand them their hard earned money to pay for their greed.

I don't know if this is the start of WWIII or not. I do know that there never was a chance for peace through negotiation in the Middle East because of who's running the show. Ohlmert and Netanyahu never wanted a peaceful resolution. Well, they got their death and chaos. Just like bush** & Co. got theirs in Iraq. They're all alike. They love death as long as it's not theirs or anyone in their family. And if the dying happen to be Palestinian or Arabic or Persian, hell it's all good to them.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:36 PM
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11. I agree that here it really couldn't be forseen
but I can certainly see examples where it could be forseen and maybe should be paid by the evacuee. For example if someone decides to visit North Korea on a site seeing mission and then wants the military to rescue him would have far less of my sypathy than the people in this example.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:20 PM
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2. It was passed recently in the middle of the night
behind closed doors when no one was looking.

Great huh?

:grr: :argh:

:kick:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:22 PM
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3. How the heck did you expect them to free up monies for those tax rebates
Edited on Tue Jul-18-06 07:22 PM by Skidmore
to the Millionaires Club?

Seriously, who sponsored that bill and who voted for it?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:22 PM
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4. I want to know exactly who passed that. Tony Snowjob claimed
Congress is responsible; I've been googling, but can't find any references, except to the state dept. :grr: I'd really like to prove Snowjob was lying!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:24 PM
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6. And who signed it? *'s doppelganger?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:30 PM
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7. Answer here, found on another thread=damn!:
Congress passed this in 2003 and most Democrats voted for it:

http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=3825&sequence=0

Reimbursements for Emergency Overseas Evacuation. Section 201 would allow the State Department to seek reimbursements for the emergency evacuation of employees of the U.S. government, their dependents, private U.S. citizens, and foreign nationals. According to the department, this section of the bill codifies existing practice and would have no impact on the budget.



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2001-121

Democrat Republican Independent
Aye 170 175 1
Nay 35 36 2
Absent 3 3 0
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:35 PM
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10. Freakin' figures. Do any of these people think things through
using commonsense before voting on them?

Thanks.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:23 PM
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5. Do US citizens living
and working abroad pay US taxes on that income?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:31 PM
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8. repukes
they'd send their mom a bill for their mother's day card
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:37 PM
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12. See response #7 for an interesting read.
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