The Pitter-Patter of Frozen Little Feet is Expensive

Turns out "snowflake babies" isn't a nickname. It's the trademark of Nightlight Christian Adoptions for their "embryo adoption" program.

You can read all about it at http://www.nightlight.org/snowflakefaqsap.htm

Bottom line:

Anywhere but Southern California:
Nightlight Program Fee: $5000
Homestudy Fee: between $1000 and $2500
Frozen Embryo Transfer Fee: between $2000 and $7500

In Southern California:
Nightlight Program Fee, including homestudy: $6600
($1600 credit if homestudy has been performed)
Frozen Embryo Transfer Fee: between $2000 and $7500

Add to this any lab work required, plus all prenatal expenses, plus childbirth expenses.

1. for the purely political statement that it is (don't let them fool you into feeling ashamed for seeing the political angle of this).

2. They ain't adopting no damned colored babies I'll tell you that no matter where the babies come from (don't let them fool you into feeling ashamed for seeing this as their end run around the adoption process).

I have NO PROBLEM with anyone giving up, selling, or doing whatever they wish with their embryos. My only problem is, if the donors decide they just don't want them anymore, why shouldn't they be used for SS research instead of just being destroyed?

and implanting frozen embryos into every one of them so that every BAY BEE gets to be BORN.

There are no plans, of course, to support the animated flowerpot women or the exalted BAY BEES who make it through the birth process.

I don't think there should ever be embryos created "just" for the purpose of science, but when there are some available that noone wants anymore, there are multiple options. One is some "snowflake" society, one is to destroy them, and another SHOULD BE donation to science!

I've actually checked into donatin my body to science when I croak. (Not sure they'd want the darn thing!) Do these folks have a problem with that too?

If they truely believe these embryos are "living humans" why aren't they fighting against invitro? Then there wouldn't be any unwanted enbryos!

That wall of people holding Snowflake® Babies isn't just comprised of fundamentalists, it's comprised of RICH fundamentalists.

I ran the numbers and we'll add a few things to this. You get your embryos in a little tank called a dry shipper. Since it's full of liquid nitrogen, it's like a big thermos. If you have to rent this thing it runs about $1000 with the deposit, cleaning fees and so on. Let's further say that even with insurance all your pre-pregnancy medical runs you $4500. Then add all the "adoption" fees at the high end and you're sitting at $20,000.

It would be callous of me to point out that the reason you have to consider this kind of pregnancy is that God has decided you've got enough kids now, and by going through all of this trouble you're actually thwarting the Will of the Lord (for which you get sent to hell most days), but I like callousness sometimes.

Okay, so all these Hell-bound people received a dry shipper when they finally received approval to participate in the Snowflake program. In it you will find no less than six embryos--says the FAQ, if the donors had less than six you'll receive embryos from two families, and if the donors had more than six you'll receive all they had. The company recommends implanting only three embryos at a time. There are, apparently, two critical control points in this process: thawing and implantation. They figure that if you get six embryos three are going to die during the thaw and two more will reject at implantation or die during pregnancy, so six embryos equals one screaming baby. But let's be funny and say that we pulled three embryos out, thawed them, implanted them and got two successful implantations. Now we've got one miscarried embryo, two good solid buns in the oven, and three embryos remaining in the dry shipper. You are, by your contract, supposed to discard the unused three embryos!

Read that again: this process destroys embryos.

If this is supposed to save the precious snowflake babies from being destroyed, it sounds like a half-ass way to do it to me.

>it's comprised of RICH fundamentalists.<

We recently met a set of twin Snowflake Babies(tm) at a friend's home. There are living, breathing children available for adoption.

These folks aren't interested. After all, those kids don't make a Political Statement.

Julie

humans" were destroyed in that process?

With parents like George and Laura, there was no potential the embryos would be human.

It fact, every Freeper female of childbearing age should be signed up to be an incubator if they really feel that strongly about it.

That is what I noticed at today's Bush photo op -- a sea of rich, white, people holding their white babies.

As long as one child sits languishing in foster care here in the US, the idea of "snowflake babies" frankly disgusts me. Not to mention the millions of children of AIDS across the world who might love the opportunity to be raised by a loving American family.

Oh yeah, that's right...many of those chilren are...(gasp!) brown or black! A "good christian family" can't have that now, can they???

I wouldn't wish the curse of fundie parents on anyone, let alone my own flesh and blood. They will be much better off being donated to science.