Maybe we need to change our message on global warming.

Instead of focusing on the warming part, put the emphasis on how Earth really doesn't care if we become extinct. Maybe get the RWingers to think it is a challenge by Gaia or something. Make them clean the Earth out of unfocused hate/fear.

Okay maybe not.

you could point out that appointed man as shepherds (or was it stewards?) of the Earth and we are suppose to care for it...

but the fundies expect rapture any moment....

I think honestly, if you are an environmentally minded person who wants to see the Earth clean and healed.... the best thing is the extinction of humanity. We are a blight on the world and there is really no hope that we will ever change. We will wipe ourselves out before we can be bothered to take responsibility for our world.

The other, less cataclysmic answer is we get off our asses and build space ships and get off this rock.

They already hate the planet, so make them hate it in another way. Tell em the planet is becoming poisonous to humankind and either they are with us or with the planet in destroying us. Since they don't believe in global warming, it would work. Poisons we of course are responsible for, but they don't know that! RWingers still live back in the 1500s.

It would work.

Besides "An Inconvenient Truth" this summer has been brutally hot and dry throughout a large portion of the US. When Senator Inhofe's constituents come to fully understand what's probably just beginning to soak in (and I don't mean rain), he'll be lucky if it isn't tar and feathers . . .

Even my conservative parents who previously thought global warming was a myth or at the least didn't think there was enough evidence for it (I really think not enough info for "regular" people to understand it) are believing it. Whenever we talk on the phone and mention the droughts, wildfires, unusual storms, and unbelievable heat, I try to throw in "global warming" in a casual way and they now readily agree with me.

Conservatives! Who thought Al Gore was a pretentious, disconnected tree-hugger!

the insurance co's could be v. easily turned to our side but they are not enough

we need to show how repairing the environment creates jobs, many of them jobs that don't have to the highest of technical skill but jobs for all, such as planting trees etc.

of course it only creates jobs and helps the economy if we're actually willing to pay people to do the jobs -- similar to the jobs created by the "new deal" of fdr

there are great ornithologists working now essentially unpaid who have to interrupt important scientific work to lead tourists around for $$$ OR THEY DON'T EAT

i bet this is the same for the botanists, the butterflyers, the herp fanciers, the folk who study the great cats or the elephants, and just so forth and so on

so much science could get done and things figured out if people were actually getting paid! and it would help the economy too by creating jobs on all levels -- at high levels for the ph.Ds but also at low levels for the guy who plants the trees or does whatever grunt work

think abt the 1930s, a great example would be hoover dam, yes, at the time somewhat of a make-work, but look at the billions of billions of dollars in the economy as a result of the water/power for vegas -- and look at the hordes of tourists even today who will go to marvel at a time when, to make jobs for artists, they put a $3 million dollar terrazo floor down in a dam!

we could do that, we could make our society a work of art and beauty and save the planet too...if we had the will to get the ball rolling

(edited because vodka, she can't spell}