NYers......Ground Zero

I am watching Oprah with a 9-11 widow. What is ground zero now like? Have we decided on a design yet?
I don't undertand why we could not keep the two laser beams on for 5 hours a night. Is she correct, is it really like a circus?

But veering toward debacle. Plans are revised and revised and revised. The memorial had no means of egress in an emergency, apparently. Tons of bad blood between the owner, the Port Authority and the city. It's a pain in the ass and, so far as I'm concerned, shameful that nothing has been built yet. Don't know anything about the laser beams but as a NYer I find it particularly disgusting that Ground 0 has become a tourist trap complete with hats, T-shirts, shutterbugs etc.

this is tough for everyone, especially when the families have no bodies, no memorial service and no place to go visit. I understand it is still a 'hole'.....I think this is so beautiful lighting up the sky

http://www.killingthebuddha.com/damn_nation/Unbearable_Lightness.htm

i send them uptown to harlem

Though I do understand..I hope they want to pay respect, not get souvenirs

7:15pm, Friday July 21, 2006

to Battery Park?

in the immediate aftermath, but they've long since been replaced by newer arrivals. The vacancy rate here in BPC is low, and rents are maybe higher than they've ever been.

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It is surrounded by fence and some kind of green mesh. The funny thing is I was so busy looking for a parking space I almost did not realize I was driving by ground zero and that's when it dawned on me that that area of space should not be built on except to build a memorial to the victims of 911. That whole area in my opinion is like walking around a grave yard. I use to work in that area and would sit in the WTC for lunch many days and actually worked in the WTC on the 38th floor I think it was (I would have to check the manager of human resources business card of the firm, which I still have, to be sure what floor, its been a long time since).

Maybe I'm being superstitious but I think any thing that is attempted to be built on that site will never have success, except that which is built be to honor the dead killed on that site.

Just my humble opinion.

I only want a memorial to the fallen....NO buildings for commerce, but I know it will be built someday:cry:

I think it's horrible that a place of such massive death and destruction has become a tourist attraction like some kind of sick Disneyland. Hawkers selling reminders of a horrible day. I live here and have not gone to Ground Zero since 9/11. I watched it happen from my office window, I know what's there.

If as much energy was put into building a memorial there as there has been arguing and bickering back and forth, there would be one there by now.

I recently visited NY but my hotel was in Jersey. We took the subway into the city and always got off at the WTC exit. Call me stupid but when it said that that was the exit I did not think they meant inside the site where the towers once stood.

It was a sad and humbling experience to be inside the bottom of where one of the towers first stood. I was shocked because I honestly thought it would just stop in the area. I had not planned on going to the sight because while I can explain to two young boys how inept our pResident is, I was not quite sure how to explain this. It was a lot to take in and we also had our 14 year old niece with us.

We skimmed the details with our children and just told them it was a place to give respect for those who had lost their lives due to a terrible tragedy. We did use this opportunity to talk in depth with our niece.

We did not view this as a fun place to go and we did not buy t-shirts. Many things happened that day (and before as well as after) that never should have happened.

I will admit that I did try to go a few years ago but that was to pay my respects as well as to make it real in my mind. It is hard to fathom that our idiot in chief let this all happen. And he did let it happen whether it was M/LIHOP or because he was such a moran. I have nothing but respect for those who lost their lives on that day. Please do not think ill of tourists when they may have only the purest of intentions in their hearts. If even one tourist goes there and finally connects the dots with what happened then the directions you gave them are worth it.

I do not think an establishment of any kind should be built on that site but I realize that this is the golden age of corporations. Money is now worshiped above all else and what is right or moral be damned. There are people out there who are only millionaires and in this dictatorship they wonder who we think we are to deprive them of trillions of dollars. It is all sad on so many levels that I can not even begin to explain them all.