If you're little sister is raped by your dad....

Don't cross state lines to help her get that abortion. Soon you'll end up in the clink. Oh yeah, they're going to have exceptions where you can petition the court to let you get an abortion w/o consent because your parents abuse you. That always goes well. It's definitely as easy as it sounds. Hey, if you're old enough to use tampons, you're old enough to figure out how to get a lawyer without your parents' knowing.

Also... a note to all you abused girls who are potential runaways. Ask for help finding a planned parenthood *after* you cross the state line, not before, you could get an adult in a whole lot of trouble if you do. And hey kids! Stay out of trouble once you have the abortion. Life on the streets is tough. If you can't find work as a 15 year old, lie and say you're 18. Prostitution is always a good option if you get really hungry. Or you could go back home after. You can always say you were abducted (note: if you are blonde you might make national news and then you'll be exposed for sure)

I also know that some of you won't be getting those abortions because you're afraid to tell your folks. To you I say, don't even *think* about drowning your baby in the toilet at the prom like that one girl did. Or leaving it to die in a dumpster like that other 16 year old couple did. You won't get away with it. You'll go to jail.

And no coathangers or baseball bats to the stomach, sillyheads!!!! Actually, I guess that's your only option.

Here's to hopin' your parents aren't crazy fundies! :toast:




On Yahoo:

WASHINGTON - An abortion bill aimed at stopping people from helping pregnant girls skirt parental-notification laws has gained passage in both houses of Congress, but sticky political and policy disputes stand between it and President Bush's desk.

Just moments after the Senate passed its version 65-34 late Tuesday — with the support of 14 Democrats — Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., used a procedural motion to halt its progress.

Moreover, there are significant differences between the Senate bill and the House version passed last year.

For his part, Bush urged Congress to resolve the differences and send him the bill.

"Transporting minors across state lines to bypass parental consent laws regarding abortion undermines state law and jeopardizes the lives of young women," he said in a statement.

Both bills are designed to make it a crime to help a pregnant girl cross state lines to get an abortion in an effort to evade parental notification and consent laws in her home state.

The Senate bill would protect the girl and her parents from prosecution, as well as provide an exception for anyone who helps a girl end her pregnancy when the pregnancy poses a threat to the mother's life. It also contains a way for girls with abusive parents to ask a court to allow the abortion without her parents' notification.

activity.

And women and girls died then.

there will always be brave people who will step into the void. not enough of them, of course. but they will never take away choice with mere words on paper. hell, they don't follow the laws. why should we?

:shrug:

favor and she went to deliver. I am disappointed she didn't read his remarks though.

So did Lieberman.

The Democratic Traitors to Women who voted Yes to jailing those who help a minor go over state lines to get an abortion are:

1. Bayh of IN
2. Byrd of WV (just die already)
3. Carper of DE
4. Conrad of ND
5. Dorgan of ND
6. Inouye of HI....gotta get a boat or plane to cross state line here.l
7. Johnson of SD...the state flag is a wire coat hangar
8. Kohl of WI
9. Landrieu of LA
10. Nelson
11. Nelson
12. Pryor of AR
13. Reid of NV....this is our 'leader.' Sells out to the Mormon Taliban
14. Salazar of CO...what a waste of a Democrat.

Feinstein of CA did NOT vote.

The pugs who voted NO are:

1. Chaffee of RI
2. Collins
3. Snowe
4. Spectre

And Independent Jeffords of VT.

The more I think of it, the more I want to secede from this Religious Taliban of State.

The Religious Right must be spending HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY on Dems...it's blackmail imho.

He should have run as a repuke since he votes like one. I regret all I did to help his campaign in '04. When I wrote a letter expressing my disappointment in his voting record I didn't even receive a reply. Fucking sellout.




Oh, that's just rich. Like the giggling murderer gives a shit about the lives of young women. When will the nightmare end?

CO? He took lots of credit for getting Salazar elected...and he turns out to be a bigoted old man.

Can you send him back to his ranch and find a true fighter for Democracy and Equal Rights? I would think CO would have lots of those.

when not all the girls in the high school class make it to graduation-they die because of complications from back alley abortions.

that my two senators (clinton and schumer) did the right thing and voted against this monstrosity.

Or do both parents have to agree to let their child have an abortion.

correctly?

"Transporting minors across state lines to bypass parental consent laws regarding abortion undermines state law and jeopardizes the lives of young women," he said in a statement.


Transporting the minor across state lines undermines state law, but passing a federal law to override those same state laws doesn't undermine the state laws? Huh?!

and supports those with it.

their options (you know,another word for gee, I don't know....CHOICES) are limited - what then?

Women and girls desperate enough to turn to coat-hangers and baseball bats and drowning a newborn, could be desperate enough to turn to suicide as well. People force her against the wall, people take away her options, people show her nothing but hostility for her situation and people don't expect more tragedy?

Everyone who voted for this disgust me...

And the nerve of putting up roadblocks that make it harder on the woman/girl and calling them "provisions that allow for"

If I had been in this situation as a teen, I would have gone for a back alley abortion before telling my parents -- and I had loving parents and a pretty good head on my shoulders! So many other girls will make the same choice.

The abortion opponents are so quick to flat-out lie about the ill effects of abortion (increased breast cancer risk, severe depression, etc.) but just refuse to face the very real medical dangers of denying women and girls a safe place to have a medical procedure that they have made up their minds to have.

This will be the end of a promising future for so many young women. It will be a certain death sentence for others. Anyone familiar with Becky Bell already knows that parental consent laws not only fail the needs of young women but can put their lives in jeopardy by forcing them to take desperate and sometimes deadly measures. Additional restrictions only increase the likelihood of girls taking matters into their own hands.

Girls faced with unwanted pregnancies who cannot tell their parents do not have the wherewithal, if even the desire, to seek legal representation in a courtroom. Without the option of turning to a trusted grandparent or another adult they will opt for the gamble of a self induced abortion or the services of a back ally butcher. Modern times have not ended these archaic practices nor their deadly outcome. If anything, it has made them more dangerous and available. Just google "self induced abortion" and take a look at what is going around the internet as "safe" procedure - or ask a twelve year old.

battles we need to fight. And yet, too many people are not taking this seriously.
:grr:

If a woman cannot control her body, even a young woman, then she is not a full citizen. If we enforce second class citizenship upon woman then we are barbarians. I refuse to be a barbarian!

YOU F'ING ASSCLOWN OF A PRESIDENT! :mad:

and education for underage girls.
Herbs are a good way to go about it, and if the idiots try to stop it,
fuck em'! We'll grow our own.:grr:

get pregnant anymore, and both my children were boys. But I think I can tell you if I HAD had a daugter who was raped by ANYONE, I would want her to receive the morning aftr pill. I wouldn't want one of friends driving her somewhere for an abortion and not telling me. But I can also recognize the problem if a girl is raped by her father or brother, and she would be scared to death to tell anyone in the family about it! Or her parents are very strong opposers of abortion, and she was foolish enough to not protect herself in her relationship with her boyfriend, and certainly can't tell her parents about that either.

I don't know what the best answer is. Maybe empowering Dr's or nurses to be able to help with the process just as a place to go for a young naive girl in a panic situation

Truthfully, I think the BEST solution to the abortion issue is to kick the Govt out of the entire thing! Such a serious decision should be between the woman, her Dr. and her God!