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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:15 PM
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Security experts: U.S. Jews must shatter their illusion of safety
Haaretz

Last update - 05:24 30/07/2006
By Amiram Barkat

Up until Friday, American Jewish communities did not believe it was necessary to invest in safeguarding Jewish sites; the protection from the federal government and local police seemed sufficient. Now, security experts are hoping the attack at the Jewish Federation building in Seattle, Washington will shatter that belief.

Ironically, the Seattle offices are among the few with a security system. Most Jewish Federation buildings in the United States have no security whatsoever, and anyone can enter.

"The Jews in the U.S. are not used to thinking in terms of security," the Jewish Agency representative in Seattle, Robert Sokolov, said on Saturday. "I hope now people will wake up, and then maybe we'll be able to prevent such tragedies from recurring in the future."

In conversations with Haaretz two days before the attack, officials who work to safeguard Jewish facilities around the world expressed frustrations at the complacency of American Jews and warned that Jewish facilities in the U.S. were more vulnerable to terror attacks than those in any other country.

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/744264.html
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:16 PM
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1. no worse than a mosque
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:22 PM
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2. difference is that Jews, indeed no one, is calling for the death of all
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 10:23 PM by papau
Muslims.

But Shia Muslims - and Sunni Muslims like Osama - are calling for the death of all Jews.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:31 PM
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4. Not that it helps, but they're also calling for the death of one another
Shiite vs Sunni
Shhite and Sunni vs Jews

There's plenty of "Sectarian Violence" to go around for everyone.

This world needs more religion like we need more carbon dioxide.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:36 PM
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6. Actually, all though it pains me to say it, there are a handfull
Go visit http://www.USAexposure.com and view the message boards.



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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:04 PM
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8. Hand full of nuts - not Bishops or chief Rabi or Guru or Boss Buddhist monk
the way there are Sunni/Sh-ia leaders that call for death to all Jews.

As to that site I could not find a kill all muslims statement of that site.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:09 PM
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10. Agreed. No powerful and influential Jewish groups are calling for Genocide
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 11:11 PM by IanDB1
Just a handful of kooks, and their leaders are barely literate in their native language of English.

And they're the equivalent of our own Couchwaffen GOP-- they sit safely, far away from the fighting, and cheerlead the bloodshed.

I haven't been to that shithole in months, but one of the frequent posters wrote a book advocating killing all the Muslims and destroying the Mosque standing where the Jewish Holy Temple once stood.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:22 PM
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15. They call for it. We actually do it.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:24 PM
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17. .
:eyes:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:29 PM
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18. .
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:31 PM
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19. ...
...how odd. But considering you imply Jews are calling for the death of all Muslims, I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:33 PM
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20. knock yerself out.
:thumbsup:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:37 PM
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22. d
papau (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-29-06 10:22 PM
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2. difference is that Jews, indeed no one, is calling for the death of all
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 10:23 PM by papau
Muslims.

But Shia Muslims - and Sunni Muslims like Osama - are calling for the death of all Jews.


burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-29-06 11:22 PM
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15. They call for it. We actually do it.



Looks like you saying the Jews "call for it." And the US "actually do(es) it." It's a two-for-one!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:39 PM
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23. Can you please stop replying to my posts.
I don't give a shit about what you think, and I can't put you on ignore because I find your posts quite entertaining.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:41 PM
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24. Wha..huh?
You won't put me on ignore because my posts are interesting, but you just don't like when they focus on what you said? Is that it? :crazy:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:42 PM
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25. Not interesting ....ENTERTAINING! as in hah hah hah
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:43 PM
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26. Ahhh...I misread. That happens when typing and watching the TV.
Yes, they are quite entertaining and VERY revealing.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:44 PM
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27. We agree on something!!
Your posts are VERY revealing.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:46 PM
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29. See...
...always something to agree on...even when smashing idiotic responses with nothing more than a roll of the eyes. :)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:35 PM
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5. It turns out that the same people who hate Muslims often hate Jews
During The Civil War, when there were riots in New York over the military draft, not only did people attack the draftboard and local armories, they also attacked black people.

When things fall apart, mobs in America will attack both Jews and Muslims alike as equal scapegoat-partners in the global conflagration.

Do you think the KKK and The Minutemen and the Couchwaffen GOP will care who started WWIII-- Israel or The Palestinians? Or do you think they'll say, "Kill them all and let Gawd sort them out?"

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:15 PM
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12. exactly
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:28 PM
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3. See related thread: America's Roadmap to The Apocalypse
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:46 PM
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7. Yes, by all means US Jews must work on their siege mentality
Their paranoia seems to have fallen into disuse. They only think they've the shtetl and pogroms behind. Substiute "Americans" for Jews and Karl Rove could have written this scare-mongering tripe.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:04 PM
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9. please clarify
your post is confused and unruly.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:22 PM
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14. That's why I have that person on my ignore list. I see it was a good call?
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FUGW Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:19 PM
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13. I for one will stand up to protect all U.S. citizens, Phuck that Siege
mentality B.S.. If my neighbor lives in fear I do. I would not kill others to get what I want and I will tolerate anyone killing people to get what they want.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:10 PM
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11. I always see cops hanging out at a synagogue (or school) here
in Northern Va. Been going on for years.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:23 PM
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16. Around here, cops direct traffic at all sorts of synagogues and churches
Then again, I'm in Massachusetts, and we're terrible drivers.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:37 PM
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21. my son goes to the jcc and sometimes I worry about
the center's security.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:46 PM
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28. The buliding in Seatlle has heavy security.
The World Trade Center from 1993-2001 had heavy security.

If slimy people are determined to shed blood, they can.


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