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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:37 PM
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Newswk asks fundy: "If the end times are near, why work for peace?"
from Newsweek:
Are These the End Times?

NEWSWEEK: But if the end times are indeed near, why would there be any point in working toward fostering peace?

Tim LaHaye: Right now the Church of Jesus Christ is busy in the spiritual vein of trying to win people to Christ. We’re concerned about the salvation of individual souls. This whole thing has heightened the spirit of evangelism. Wars have always done that. But never have we had a war that is so specifically following the pattern of the scripture.

NEWSWEEK: Michael Standaert is a critic of yours who has written recently in a blog that this belief in the end of the world in a big explosion of violence, reflects a “spiritual malaise” a “hopelessness in humanity” and that you’re “making money off of fear and hopelessness” in your “Left Behind” series. How do you respond to that?

Tim LaHaye: I would say that he’s just betraying his poverty of faith. If he had faith in the Bible, faith in the future and Jesus Christ, he’d recognize that our passion is just like the theme song in our books: we don’t want anybody to be left behind.


Interesting insight into the thinking of a man who is, to the extent that he's relevent at all, a minor roadblock along the slow windy road to peace.

Spoiler warning
: These are not the End Times.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:42 PM
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1. The murder and mayhem in the mideast
certainly are not bringing people to Christ. Just the opposite.

I abhor this person.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:50 PM
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3. To me
it just seems like opportunism.

Yes, to the OP - why work at all, if that is a given?

No other country, that has a majority of Christians in their populace has this discussion -

one can tweak hisroric text as one pleases.
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:46 PM
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2. ahh you ruined
the ending, now I won't go and see it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:05 AM
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4. Love this loop-hole
"We believe that the Bible should be understood literally whenever possible"


So who decides when it's possible? Is it possible when it fits what you want to believe and impossible when you don't? He then goes on to preface another comment with "Christians who take the bible literally..." ...but he doesn't add the "whenever possible" again (snicker)


Wow. Just wow.

I wanna recoil in horror and laugh all at the same time.



Hockey for Christ...hehehehe. Jesus saves! Gretzky scores!(old joke)






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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 01:57 AM
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5. Catholic origins for 'Left Behind' escatology in 1500s counterreformation
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 01:58 AM by EVDebs
www.aloha.net/~mikesch/antichrist.htm

with Jesuit Francisco Ribera. This 'end times' scenario plays neatly into Muslim's 12th 'Hidden Imam' and
the Muslim antichrist and messiah/mahdi

http://biblia.com/911/messiah.htm

Also read Iran's Ahmahdi-nejahd's letter to Bush
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/09_05_06ahmadinejadletter.pdf

and ask yourself if these two leaders are foisting their respective endtime views upon the rest of the world.
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