Lopez Obrador is going to cause a lot of good people to have criminal

records, hopefully no one will be severely injured.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060730/pl_nm/mexico_election_dc_2

If the elections are fraudulent, then people have to stand up and be counted. It's what they did in the Republic of Georgia and in the Ukraine.

Wow, impressive. Perfect place for a demonstration.

You would have been such a big help during the '60's, when you would have advised civil rights workers to shut up, go home, and let the racists continue to make life a living hell for them.

Maybe we can get a message through to A.M.L.O. to tell him he's a destructive man, who's hurting the people of Mexico.
I'd like to see him read it to the people who turned out today. They'd probably see you as a genius.

Crack open your history book, and you will see that the signers of the Declaration of Independence were facing more than just a criminal record --they were facing execution. However, they did the right thing in standing up to a corrupt ruler.

These patriots in Mexico are standing up to election fraud. Which is more important, not having a criminal record and living under an unelected corrupt president, or protesting to overturn the fraudulent election returns and facing a possible criminal charge.

Good luck to the police trying to arrest anyone in a crowd that large. So far the protest has been peaceful, but things could change if arrests are attempted.

fraud?

Do a search in LBN for Lopez Obrador threads with the information you lack.

Unbiased organization? Claims?

How about the police who had to come to rescue some Calderon officials a crowd had trapped inside a building when they were caught trying to open one of the sealed voting boxes?

Lots and lots of UNBIASED people in that CITIZENS' organization.

ok

I've read plenty on it. And we all know the old PRI guy is the pro at fixing elections, he and his kind had over 70 years experience in it.

change who they really are.

the place where they caught the MEN, not "man." This is not the situation with the photos of the one man stuffing ballots into a box.


http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2006/07/11/005n1pol.php

It was picked up and translated for American readers:

Death by Video: Mexico’s Election Fraud Is Coming Undone
Video and Audio Evidence, an Outraged Citizenry, and Panic from the White House Are Converging to Make López Obrador the Next Mexican President


By Al Giordano
Part III of a Special Series for The Narco News Bulletin
July 11, 2006

At six p.m. last night, Monday, July 10, neighbors of the office of the Federal Electoral Institute (IFE, in its Spanish initials) in Comalcalco, Tabasco, witnessed a crime against democracy. They didn’t just stand there. They did something about it. And this one small example of the fighting spirit of the Mexican people explains why the historic presidential election fraud of July 2, 2006 will not stand.

Nine days after the fact, neither the IFE, nor President Vicente Fox, nor his National Action Party (PAN), nor their candidate Felipe Calderón, nor the Commercial Media at their service, have been able to reassert control over the juggernaut of facts, audio and video evidence, and public outrage that today tramples their anti-democratic gambit. The Fraud of 2006, and those who attempted it, are drowning under an authentically democratic tide. Take, for example, what just occurred in the Tabasco town of Comalcalco.

Study this photograph from today’s La Jornada. A campaign truck covered with PAN party logos, slogans, and the faces of three of their candidates – the one in the middle is Calderón – is parked in front of a building. From the balcony of the colonial-style structure shines an illuminated sign with three large letters: I… F… E. Citizens have arrived by foot and by bicycle and have blocked the entrances to the IFE building and the PAN truck. Not all of them appear in the photo, but there are 500 of them and they are hopping mad. Trapped inside are at least ten IFE officials who, according to eyewitnesses, illegally entered the building, brought sealed ballot boxes out into the patio, and began to open them, breaking the official seals. They were seen revising anew the “actas” with the vote tallies and recounting the ballots, without, as the law requires, the presence of representatives from all the political parties. The neighbors sounded the alarm and the electoral delinquents have been caught in the act.

Where are the soldiers of the Mexican Army that supposedly are guarding the ballot boxes at the 300 IFE offices like this one throughout the country? What about the police? The events last night in Comalcalco reveal the ugly truth: the highest authorities of the nation, in their complicity with an obvious electoral fraud, have forfeited their legitimacy and the people have self-organized to fill the power vacuum. They have converted the IFE offices into a prison for white-collar criminals and have seized the PAN truck that, the neighbors believe, was waiting to carry their votes to democracy’s graveyard.
(snip/...)

http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article1972.html

on LBN. If I had it in hand, I'd gladly link you but I don't.

The Election Forum might be the quickest way. :)

any?

But it was telling that BushCo sent their hitmen down there before the election and that Junior called the nonwinner to congratulate him when the election was in question.

It was very telling. Particularly when the videos of ballotbox stuffing surfaced.

Viva Mexico

:rofl:

you're kidding, right? how about thousands of ballots found in dumps throughout the country, especially in states where obrado was polling double digits ahead? FCOL man, open your eyes! the overwhelming evidence is right in front of you.

...affidavits of voters and observers, photographs, copies of voting tallies that do not match the numbers reported to the election division, bags of ballots found in trash dumps across Mexico, videos of tally sheets that do not add up, more votes tallied than people voted, etc.

.... and now over a million protestors in the streets demanding a vote by vote recount, which by the way the Election Tribunal in Mexico has the power to order, which if Calderon truly believes he won fair and square he would not object to taking place.

You must be kidding when you ask where was the fraud.

in the 2000 election. Had we stood as a nation against the out right theft of our country, i can safely say we wouldn't be in the trouble we now find ourselves.

I think Mexico and it's people are doing the right thing, we have to know as a people we can challenge our governments. I do believe we need to stay aware of what's happens in Mexico, and let the people of Mexico know we're watching their backs.

of the corporatist beasts? I am sure those people love him for leading the way.

I have a criminal record. No one could ever use it against me because it is bs: no arraignment, nada. Just a means to try to silence you. I guess everyone needs to choose their own adventure.

It's not to be taken lightly but, imho, also to be evaluated as a tool the opposition uses.

And I hope with you that no one gets hurt.

to fight this injustice to the poor and the working class of Mexico.

I do hope no one gets hurt but I don't think Lopez Obrador has that much concern if they do, he and his PRI thugs are going to fight to try to get the same power they had over Mexico for 70 years.

In case you change your post after reading this, here it is copied and pasted before you do!

flame away, I've got dinner and a movie
Posted by RGBolen

I do hope no one gets hurt but I don't think Lopez Obrador has that much concern if they do, he and his PRI thugs are going to fight to try to get the same power they had over Mexico for 70 years.

how long ago did everyone in his campaign "leave" PRI? LOL

Calling a PitBull a poodle doesn't make it one.

the folks protesting might get arrested or hurt - your concern is you hate this PRI party and don't want it to return to power. Well I say if the Mexican's feel their votes weren't counted fairly then more power to them to go to the streets - EXACTLY what we should have done in 2000 and 2004 - maybe you don't think there was any evidence of fraud here either?

that's why we a have a man in the WH that wasn't elected - twice! an election is stolen in the ukraine and in the fucking dead of winter millions converge from the entire country on kiev to protest. they showed up with no reservation, no place to stay, no money. they crashed in hotel lobbies, in churches, in stranger's apartments.the cities residents opened their homes and cleaned out their cupboards and fed them what they had and they made do until the rightful lwinner was installed! in the middle of a bitter cold january. in mexico a million plus take to the streets in mexico city alone when democracy is stolen from them. here in the US,we allow the presidency to be stolen twice and we can't be bothered to get off our fat asses in front of our Tvs and even write a goddamn letter to the editor of the paper.

we should choke on our 'democracy.'

its way more than we did in '00 or '04 and way better than the people of Texas did in the election theft from Ann Richards by this same thief, w. and you know it or should

WADDA WE WANT?
"moderation"

WENDA WE WANNIT?
"in due course"

then bring in your armies and police

see the revolution is coming step by step...