DINOS afraid of the progressive community; As well they should be

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MoveOns_clout_threatens_Democratic_centrists_0801.html

Text with my comments interjected in ( ):

The clout of the online Democratic activist organization MoveOn.org, visible in the campaign of Ned Lamont to seize the Democratic nomination to the Senate for Connecticut, is provoking conflict with key members of the Democratic leadership, according to a report in today's Wall Street Journal.

A front-page story in the Journal illustrates how MoveOn -- with a budget of millions of dollars and a large membership base -- has advanced itself as a player in Democratic party politics. The article makes the case that the organization's support has been critical to the success so far of the Lamont campaign in launching an insurgency against a major Democratic senator, remarking that MoveOn's endorsement of Lamont "injected cash and volunteers into the antiwar candidate's crusade to unseat one of the staunchest Democratic supporters of the Iraq war."

But other Democrats fear that MoveOn's activities could harm the party as a whole. Party leaders fear that a leftward movement, concentrated heavily on Iraq, "would imperil moderate and conservative Democrats whose appeal in Western and Southern states is critical to winning back Congress. It could also alienate swing voters, who polls suggest are shifting back to the Democrats this year. Says moderate Louisiana Democrat Sen. Mary Landrieu, who supports Mr. Lieberman, 'I don't think it's a winning strategy or a smart strategy.'"

(First of all, screw Landrieu who sold us out on the Alito Supreme Court nomination by refusing to support Kerry's filibuster. Alito has turned out to be every bit as horrific as he was foreseen to be...I use the Alito nomination as a gauge to who is a true democrat and who is not. Those who stepped forward to support the filibuster fought for the long stated policy that the dems would oppose ANY nominee that threatened Roe V Wade. But, I digress....

Let's read the second part, again - important because it is pure cow poop.

"But other Democrats fear that MoveOn's activities could harm the party as a whole. Party leaders fear that a leftward movement, concentrated heavily on Iraq, "would imperil moderate and conservative Democrats whose appeal in Western and Southern states is critical to winning back Congress"

Leftist movement concentrating on Iraq? Imperil moderate & conservative democrats? WHAT THE *&^&? Do they not read the polls??? The MAJORITY of Americans don't approve of the war in Iraq and want the troops OUT. That is NOT a leftist position. It is a sane position that the DINOS fear because they have propped up Bush's insane Iraq policy. They do not want to deal with the political repercussions of their acquiescence to a unethical, strategically stupid, and financially disastrous war. A war they ALL should have oppossed in the first place!

I am fed up to high heaven with thoughtful, intelligent, informed citizens being portrayed as the far left, EVEN BY OUR OWN PARTY. We were RIGHT about Iraq. We are RIGHT about global warming. The so-called 'far left' are the most educated, informed, thoughtful, and responsible members of American society. And, the democrats would do well to embrace rather then run from us because we represent all of the TRUE values of the old democratic party. The one that truly fought for and cared about all the people.

The so-called 'centrists' of the democratic party have destroyed the once proud party of the people by attempting to be Republican lite. It they hadn't noticed, their strategy is NOT working....Let's continue with the article...)

This tug of war is similar to a push by conservative Republicans in the early 1990s to take over the party structure and elevate such social issues as abortion. That intraparty feud contributed to the re-election defeat of President George H. W. Bush in 1992 but helped fuel the conservative Republican takeover of Congress two years later.

(HOW INSULTING to compare the progressive communities efforts to restore sanity to the democratic party to the efforts of the neo-conservatives...And, the 'conservative' Republican take-over of Congress...I guess so, if conservative means fiscally reckless, scientifically ignorant, big government promoting religious extremists...back to the text)

The Connecticut showdown comes at a time when the Democratic Party is struggling to reposition itself after successive presidential-election losses. For all its momentum, MoveOn hasn't scored a major victory, despite its rapid mobilization of people and money around the world. Its members backed 2004 Democratic presidential contender Howard Dean, who lost in early primaries. It rallied behind the Ohio Senate candidacy of Democrat Paul Hackett, an antiwar Iraq veteran, who in February angrily quit the primary under pressure from party leaders anxious to clear the way for Rep. Sherrod Brown. And this summer MoveOn made voter-turnout calls for Democrat Francine Busby, who lost a high-profile House special election to replace convicted Republican Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham in San Diego.

A Lamont loss would take the edge off threats by MoveOn and online activists to punish candidates who defy the party's so-called "netroots." But a successful challenge to Mr. Lieberman could embolden an energetic and left-leaning wing of the Democratic party, which for the first time this year is weighing into congressional primary races.

(Oh. I see. Holding democrats who do not represent the people's interest is now punishment. It was once called responsible citizenry and political accountability).

"This puts the political class on notice that they have to pay attention to people outside the Beltway," says Eli Pariser, MoveOn's 25-year-old executive director.

(This last statement is okay, but fails to address that people IN the belt-way are against this war and agree with most of the so-called 'far left' positions.

INSANE.

and they've realized that they've moved far enough to the right in their pursuit of triangulating on Republican positions that the support of the base can't be taken for granted any longer

Look for them to start triangulating back on _US_. Probably first in the form of articles talking about how Democrats are really not as divided or far apart on the issues as "some people" (meaning us) think.

We're a hair away from being a fascist dictatorship and they STILL want to move to the center. I'm beginning to hate them.

I swear, if I'd been in her presence I would have slapped her. She's CBS's political correspondent? Then she should have effing known that we don't oppose Lieberman "only because of Iraq." (She did mention the kiss, but she called it a hug.)

Hellloooo, assbite...how about "it's just fine to make a rape victim travel around until she can find a hospital who'll give her the medical treatment she needs and deserves"? How about "freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom from religion"? How about his whole freaking thing that he'll run as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination? How about his endless appearances on Faux News?

Get your head out of your ass, lady.

And, I would say the majority of true progressives have a lot more integrity, as well.

Cafta
Bankruptcy Bill
Alito
Roberts
Tax Cuts ect...

And just for the record, screw addressing the swing voters. Give them something to swing to and they will swing.

FDR & HST went leftward with the party and the party was never stronger.

Death to DINOs.

Watch out for em ya'll! :grr:

I am so fed up with the DINOS. I am so sick of democrats who don't fight. Or, worse. They go right along or endorse the Republican policies.

Any true dem would not be afraid of the progressive movement. They would be excited about it. Look at all the people who are now involved thanks to the internet and grassroots organizations. They should WANT to be held accountable. They are SUPPOSED to represent US.

It is so offensive that our own party would paint us as radicals.

If nothing else, I've been hoping Lamont's candidacy shakes some of them up. I want the Joe Biden who chaired the Bork hearings back!

of the people in this country are to the left of center! :grr:

They outright LIE and pin the faux democrat label on themselves-kinda like putting lipstick on a pig. Well, it's still a pig, isn't it?! :puke:

Don't want to have to fight em at a place called "DEMOCRATIC" underground. But I will and do. :evilgrin:

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http://www.courant.com/search/dispatcher.front?target=article&Query=elitist+insurgents

"Democrats everywhere are looking to Connecticut for clues about the party's direction. The primary will probably point them leftward, toward a stronger anti-war stand. But often in the past, the early successes of these elitist insurgents have been followed by decisive defeats when a broader public weighs in. That is why this contest is so consequential for the Democratic Party."


This was in a commentary piece called "Why Lieberman Will Lose the Primary."

A sly way to appeal to base fears of intellectualism and terrorism, in the guise of "helping" the Democratic Party.

This country has lost it friggin marbles. All three of them.

Thats what they fear the most. Landrieu is pissing and moaning because she knows if Joe goes her position and voting record is near to Joe's, this endangers her (she sold us out more then once, it wasn't just the Alito vote).


Move it away from the Corporations (and that goes for all branches of government). It's been proved over and over again that Corporations will one honor their profit margins. Dinos have made sure these specific things happen, DLC (cough) .. usually not in favor of what the public supports.

The DC Democrats have become elitist, out of touch with the party. Did you see Boxer on Lieberman's campaign?
Lieberman said he believes hospitals that refuse to give contraceptives to rape victims for "principled reasons" shouldn't’t be forced to do so.

"In Connecticut, it shouldn't’t take more than a short ride to get to another hospital," he said There really isn't a way to take that out of context is there? Would Joe say this to his own daughter?


I really feel like the DC Democrats have adopted this "I know better then you do, so sit down and shut up fringe group!" attitude about us. And that is dangerous to the party, if people are feeling like they are not heard, that causes all sorts of breaks and divides. Republicans are assholes but they listen to their fringe groups.

80 percent of the country wants a cease fire, and 70 percent think it was wrong to go into Iraq and support troop withdrawal (yet they refuse to talk about it!) I just don't understand why they are dragging their asses all over the carpet?
It causes me some major frustration.

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