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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:47 PM
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Reminder: Why it is VITAL you vote for a Democrat, even if a DINO in '06
From Kevin Spidel's post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=839811&mesg_id=839811

snippet:

- At least 9 Congressional Progressive Caucus Members would become Committee Chairmen or Chairwomen
- An additional 35 Congressional Progressive Caucus Members would become Subcommittee Chairmen or Chairwomen.

The following Progressive Caucus Members would become Committee Chairs:

- Congressman George Miller, Chairman of Education and Workforce Committee
- Congressman Barney Frank, Chairman of Financial Services
- Congressman Henry Waxman, Chairman of Government Reform
- Congressman Bennie Thompson, Chairman of Homeland Security Committee
- Congressman Tom Lantos, Chairman of International Relations Committee
- Congressman John Conyers, Chairman of Judiciary Committee
- Congresswoman Louise Slaughter, Chairwoman of Rules Committee
- Congresswoman Nydia Velazquez, Chairwoman of Small Business Committee
- Congressman Charles Rangel, Chairman of Ways and Means Committee

The following Progressive Caucus Members would become Subcommittee Chairs:

- Appropriations Subcommittees -- Congresswomen Rosa DeLauro and Marcy Kaptur and Congressmen John Olver, Jose Serrano, and Ed Pastor
- Armed Services Subcommittee, Congressman Neil Abercrombie
- Education and Workforce Subcommittees, Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey and Congressman Dennis Kucinich
- Energy and Commerce Subcommittees, Congressman Ed Markey and Congresswomen Jan Schakowsky and Hilda Solis
- Financial Services Subcommittee, Congresswoman Maxine Waters and Congressman Luis Gutierrez
- Government Reform Subcommittees, Congresswoman Diane Watson and Congressmen Dennis Kucinich, Elijah Cummings, Danny Davis of Illinois, and William "Lacy" Clay
- International Relations Subcommittee, Congressman Donald Payne
- Judiciary Subcommittees, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee and Congressmen Jerry Nadler and Melvin Watt
- Interior Subcommittees, Congressmen Raul Grijalva and Tom Udall and Congresswoman Donna Christensen
- Rules Subcommittees, Congressman Jim McGovern
- Small Business Subcommittees, Congresswomen Madeleine Bordallo
- Transportation and Infrastructure, DeFazio, Filner, Holmes-Norton, and C. Brown
- Ways and Means Subcommittees, Congressmen Pete Stark, Jim McDermott, and John Lewis of Georgia



Folks, it is that serious.

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(Thank you Kevin Spidel!!)

This is SO IMPORTANT

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:51 PM
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1. OH, and if we take back the houses we can impeach. President Pelosi 07!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:53 PM
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2. NOT President Pelosi... It's UNITARY EXECUTIVE Nancy Pelosi...
equipped with all of Bush's new "Super Powers" that the GOP has so graciously given us.

I can't wait until the anti-abortion groups are designated to be Enemy Combatants and we can wiretap them without warrants!

Thank you Mister Bush! I like you!
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:56 PM
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5. You mean they aren't doing that already! ;-)
:kick:
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Kixel Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:59 PM
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18. LOL!
Way to spin a positive edge out of the craziness of todays political spectrum. Thank you!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:55 PM
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4. my only problem is that if you elect DINOS, can you actually
predict they will impeach, or any other progressive concern, even if such strategic advances are made?

If anything, it would be more logical to assume electing a DINO will actually prevent impeachment, because they wont' vote for impeachment, n'est-ce pas?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:00 PM
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6. impeachment would be great. If not, still look at the benefits from the OP
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:05 PM
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7. Except that if enough people
tell him to impeach, he has no choice if he wants to keep his job. That's why it's important to have the elections every 2 years. If one doesn't do what you want, find another to take his place. And even if you don't, you have the threat to hang over the elected official's head. You work them, AFTER they are elected.

zalinda
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:08 PM
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8. excellent point!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:21 PM
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10. Even if I have twice as many players as the other team, if
half of them shoot into our own goal, the other side still wins.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:55 PM
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3. kick and nominating - Here's to retiring Sen Pat "Coverup" Roberts as
chair of the Senate intelligence committee too. This man has done NOTHING but cover up for the Bush administration.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:43 PM
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11. many thanks
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 01:20 PM
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9. K&R
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 03:58 PM
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12. thanks!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:35 PM
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14. Your welcome!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 07:44 PM
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13. .
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:39 PM
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15. exactly why
off to the greatest for you
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:01 PM
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17. oh bless your heart!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:41 PM
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16. Excellent post
K&R
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:20 PM
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19.  Kick & Rec.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:32 PM
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20. thanks for the recs and praises y'all!
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:33 PM
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21. Who says the Progressives are guarenteed those seats though?
I thought this isn't automatic and has to be done through races themselves. Am I wrong?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:34 PM
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22. honestly I'm not sue but I trust Kevin Spidel
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 11:34 PM by helderheid
I'm not sue, AND I'm not sure.
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:35 PM
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24. Haha, typo eh, but seriously
I remember when Congresswoman McKinney returned to Congress in 2004 Pelosi wouldn't give her seniority back. With Seniority McKinney would've been able to ask the right questions when we needed them asked (something she is good at).

How do we know that Pelosi won't purge the progressives again?
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:35 PM
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23. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! We need to keep our eyes on the prize.
Lots of other things going on in teh world right now, but a dem majority could bring some resolve to these problems better than any neo cons.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:37 PM
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25. Thank You For Reminding Us Why This Is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! Spot On.
:applause:

All the Dem bashing and Green loving and Castro bedding posts have been enough to make me wanna puke my democratic guts out. But this thread sends me to bed with hope and a smile. Thanks Helderheid! :)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:42 PM
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26. Bless you OMC! I love ya!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:44 PM
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27. Could someone give me a heads-up when it's not vital?
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 11:45 PM by JVS
I'd like to vote against DINOs someday. :sigh:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:05 AM
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28. I plan on not supporting nor voting for DLC/moderates
The DLC/moderates keep saying vote for us or we won't be able to control congressional panels. They say, we don't care that you are against everything we stand for, we demand that you give up everything you believe in and vote our way. If you don't it is your fault the GOP is in control.

I call bullshit. It is the DLC/moderates who are at fault here. Because they cannot be distinguished from the GOP, voters are turned off and don't vote because they feel both parties are the same. The DLC/moderates are the ones who are keeping the GOP in power. The DLC/moderates carry all the blame here.

If the DLC/moderates want people to vote for them, then they had better change their stance and get a plan that people want and will stand behind and gladly give them their vote.

I do not want a DLCer to lead my country and will not vote for one.
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MarkDevin Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:10 AM
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29. Thankfully, I can vote for a REAL Democrat on Tuesday, 8/8.
I live in Connecticut and will cast my ballot for Ned Lamont! :bounce:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:04 PM
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31. I envy you. I have a DINO here.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:55 AM
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30. In general, I'm with you
I believe DiFi is running this year, and I'll vote for her. I'd only draw the line with Lieberman. He's a whole different ball game. But I don't get to vote for him in any case.

There's being a DINO, and there's being a traitor to the party (and in doing so, being a traitor to the American people and the Constitution).
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:20 PM
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32. :P
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:56 PM
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33. Even the most shameless DLC corporate whore--
--if s/he has a "D" after his or her name, will put those agenda-setting gavels in the hands of the party which had 59% of its legislative contingent vote against the Iraq war.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:58 PM
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34. Henry Waxman would reform this government, too
starting with impeachment of *, Crashcart, Rummy, and Condi
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