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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:34 PM
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What would you think of someone who's finances looked like this.
Say in one year they earned:

$500,000+ in salary
$1.5+ million in capital gains
$275,000+ in dividend income
$225,000+ in income from investment partnerships

Would you think this person was a pig, or some sort of parasite?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:38 PM
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1. I would have to see distributions ledger to judge, i.e.
hit men: $50,000
attorneys fees: $250,000
political bribes: $325,000
income taxes: $25

Take your pick: pig parasite crook saint
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 10:12 PM
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55. The person may get PAID that much. I doubt that they EARNED it.
Let's stop using the word EARNED when we're talking about these types of compensation package. That leads one to think that the person works very hard and has a very special skill and that the work has great value. The word EARNED has a positive connotation.

That's not necessarily the case. The person may get PAID that much for any number of reasons, many of them bad.

Let's start using the more neutral term PAID.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:42 PM
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2. My first thought would probably be
that they must have come from a very rich family and had lots of opportunities most of us don't. Whether they were good, bad or average people I would not presume to judge without more info.
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jrd200x Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:15 PM
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49. Yes. he definitley comes from a rich family?
How on earth does that make sense.

I came from a very poor family, and don't make that kind of change, but I do OK.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 09:07 PM
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53. Without knowing how to spell or punctuate?
Man, you must be talented.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:44 PM
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3. I'd think they were pretty shrewd. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:44 PM
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4. I think Joe Lieberman would be doing much better in the polls if
he'd come clean early on and admitted that his grandstanding ego-driven bootlicking for the Bush administration generally and the Iraq war particularly, were lapses of instinct, and that he intended from that point forward to honor the tenets of our party's mission.

But he failed to do that and 2 major polls now show him way behind a superior Democratic choice in Connecticut.

Go, Ned.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 09:54 PM
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5. A successful entrepreneur. n/t
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:03 PM
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6. I'll tell you when I see his/her relative tax burden compared to mine.n/t
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:05 PM
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7. gollygee! whoever could you mean?
Could you BE more transparent?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:07 PM
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8. Sub-question: what would Hugo Chavez think of this guy? n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 11:40 PM
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13. You just keep an eye out for ol' Hugo Chavez. He's rumored to be
engineering a hostile take-over of Chuck E Cheese restaurants in the U.S.

The man's a mover and shaker.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 01:19 AM
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17. Is Hugo Chavez registered to vote in CT?
I wonder what Mickey Mouse would think of him. That's about as relevant.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:44 AM
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20. What do YOU think DUers think Hugo Chavez would think of this guy?
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 03:45 AM by impeachdubya
I know what I think you think DUers think Hugo Chavez would think of this guy.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:53 AM
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22. Maybe what is being asked is - is Hugo richer than the person in the OP
being described?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:47 PM
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30. Nah, I think it's just someone doing some axe-grinding.
Period.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:57 AM
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24. Hugo Chavez would probably think, "Is he dodging taxes?" n/t
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:06 PM
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45. I'm guessing Lo, you don't support Lamont anymore?
that's too bad.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:09 PM
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9. bill gates pays the same income tax as someone making $87,000 after the
first round of tax cuts.. he probably gets a subsidy by now..
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jrd200x Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:16 PM
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51. How do you know that?
are you just talking about SS tax?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:09 PM
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10. Shrug
Not enough to go on. What do they do with their money? How do they live and how do they act?

I am not bigotted against a person for merely having more money than I do.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:16 PM
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11. Do I sense a certain envy?
IF somebody does a great job and has skils that are rare to find, those numbers would not seem outrageous to me.

100 M, or even 15M might seem outrageous.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:20 PM
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12. Is this a real question ??
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:27 AM
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14. lucky that they were paying 15% tax on 80% of their income while most
people who make a tiny fraction of that income pay twice that rate.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:48 AM
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15. Neither
That's actually pretty small potatoes among some people I know.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 12:50 AM
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16. I would think that person is ahead of Senator Lieberman by 13 points
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:11 AM
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18. It's not what they earn; it's what they do with it afterwards.
Someone who made all that money and just sat on it would be a pig or a parasite. If they used it to make the world a better place, I'd give them a pass.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:40 AM
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19. Seeing as I'm not a communist
I don't have any automatic predisposition to hate the wealthy.

I would probably base any value judgements (insofar as it's any of my business) on how they got the money and what they do with it.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:46 AM
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21. Wow, that's a lot of money...
That's what I would think.

Since I know nothing else about this person there is no way I can form an opinion.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 03:54 AM
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23. It depends on how he treats those who made him that money
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 04:09 AM by Selatius
The greatest entrepreneurs would never be rich without people working to make them money. A good idea is one thing, but good workers to put that idea into action are another.

If we're talking about the fucking CEO of Wal-Mart, for instance, he's a fucking parasite, for he knows not the fact that without the workers, he could not make that money.

You treat the workers with care, or you will suffer the consequences, and you will have to deal with socialists like me and unionists at the end of your day coming by to talk with your workers.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:04 AM
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25. I Don't Get It
That's chump change for even the lowliest "celebrity".
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:13 AM
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26. ParasiteManPig is REAL! I'm SERIAL!!!!!!!!
Just not as real as the DESPERATION dripping off
the hardcore Lieberman supporters these days.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:32 AM
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28. Are you kidding? Is that what this is all about?
:rofl:

There are still hardcore Lieberman supporters around here?!?

I say again :rofl:

Is the OP saying those finances are somehow in themselves damning?

:rofl:

I LOVE THE SMELL OF ROASTED CHICKENHAWK!!

IT SMELLS LIKE VICTORY!!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:24 AM
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27. Not doing too bad.
The $500k salary is especially nice.

I would call this person rich.

Other than that I know nothing about them.

It could very well be many of our leading Democrats and liberals.

So what?

Aren't liberals allowed to be rich too? I think they are, but are expected to give a hell of a lot more to good causes. Do you have any info on the charitable / public donations of this person?

:shrug:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 07:37 AM
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29. What would you think of someone who's ideals looked like THIS?:
Edited on Sat Aug-05-06 07:39 AM by Marr
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:39 PM
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31. Would you think them similar to THIS?:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:42 PM
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32. A handshake greeting is the same as a wet kiss on television?
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 02:43 PM by Marr
You must be alot of fun at business meetings.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:43 PM
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33. How 'bout a Congressman who's WIFE is a Pharma Lobbyist?
Now THAT would SUCK!

Start crying NOW, Jowlmentum. Good luck finding a new job. Ten bucks says you go with Carlyle or the Bush Administration.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 02:50 PM
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34. What was he supposed to do?
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 02:51 PM by calico1
Throw a right hook at Bush? Kick him in the groin? Bite his ear off?
It's good manners to shake the president's hand as have many, many people in Congress over the years. Good manners does not need to include kisses and embraces.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:02 PM
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42. You're right. it was like Sammy Davis Jr & Richard Nixon:
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:10 PM
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46. Kucinich's Handshake
is not cumulative of his attitude toward Bush, as Lieberman's kiss is. No one cares about the actual kiss, but what it summarizes, a career dedicated to constant seeking of approval from the right and the GOP.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:23 PM
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35. I'd think a lot more of him than I would someone who snogs dictators
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:36 PM
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36. I still haven't seen this "kiss" people are talking about.
I see a hug, but not a kiss.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:49 PM
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39. To paraphrase Paul Simon
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 04:50 PM by FredScuttle
You're only seeing what you want to see and disregarding the rest...

I have no stomach for "Democrats" who sell out their party, partly by engaging in public displays of affection with Caesar Stupidus.

But do go on defending Joementum...it's great sport!
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:48 PM
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37. Not a parasite or a pig. Probably smart, good career,
shrewd with money.

Having dollars doesn't necessarily make a person bad.


Need more info to go on.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:49 PM
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38. I'd say..
.... they were a person with a high income and a lot of investments. Any other conclusions that anyone might draw would be pretty presumptious on their part.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:53 PM
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40. I'd think "Boy, Ralph Nader is doing better than I thought"
n/t
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:55 PM
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41. John Kerry would probably consider him low income
That's a ton of $$$, but couldn't even buy one of Kerry's five houses probably. I don't hate someone because they make a ton of money as long as they give back.
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:08 PM
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43. More than I think of those who increase the income of Haliburton
shareholders with the continual justification and support of unjust wars.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:09 PM
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44. Are Dems supposed to hate the well off?
Shit, I wish someone would've told me before now!

Julie
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:11 PM
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47. is he using those finances
to help get our troops out of Iraq?
to promote health care for all Americans?
to give us all top quality educations?
to protect social security?
to protect womens' rights?
to promote marriage equality?

Then I say, its the finances of a pretty awesome guy!
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 10:16 PM
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56. We know that he's giving a lot to kicking Joementum outta the Senate
hooray!
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jrd200x Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:14 PM
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48. What's wrong with people on this board? Why only two choices?
A Pig or a PArasite? I'd call him a successful businessman.

He's obviously not a parasite. Not too many people make that kind of change being a parasite. Why does making a lot of money make them evil.

Doesn't sound Democratic me. Sounds like something a lot worse.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:15 PM
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50. I care more what they do with it than how much they get
If they are using that money, and the power that it gives, to do good things, I consider them as much a humanitarian as the person in poverty themself who nonetheless gives to support a homeless shelter for people who have even less.

Tucker
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 07:17 PM
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52. No, You've Given Me No Reason To.
The fact someone earns a lot of money or is wealthy does not in any way make them a pig or parasite. Are there any other reasons I should call this person such?
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 10:04 PM
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54. Sounds like my cousin.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:17 PM
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57. Do they give to charity and humanitarian causes
how much? There are lots of questions that can't be answered by looking at those four numbers.
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:18 PM
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58. Neither
n/t
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:21 PM
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59. I would think that person is very wealthy.
A set of income numbers is not a personality profile.
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:23 PM
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60. I have no idea of their personality
But that are certainly wealthy.
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