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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:22 PM
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I Just Want To Say: I am thankful that this attack was stopped. Period.
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 08:24 PM by phrenzy
My girlfriend was about to board a plane at Heathrow today, almost certainly marked as a target. I will address the political hay-making of this event in a separate area of my mind. Right now, I'm just glad my girl and thousands of other people are still alive. I'm glad that some people are having some success helping to stop terrorism the RIGHT way (thwarting attacks in genesis) rather than the WRONG way (attacking Iraq and creating MORE terrorists than you had to begin with)
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:23 PM
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1. didn't you just post this? if not, someone else has the same
exact story as you.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:25 PM
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2. Most of the passengers seem to think...
This was another plot fabricated by the government to stir people up. At least here in Chicago. With that said, I'm glad nothing happened.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:25 PM
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3. John Kerry was right
This is a law enforcement matter.

W will go down in shame for invading Iraq and ignoring OBL. In utter shame.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:26 PM
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4. has anything been offered that they were gonna do anything
TODAY???

IIRC they weren't ready for an operational run yet according to the News

:shrug: just saying......
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:35 PM
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9. I heard they were preparing to make a "dry run" in the next couple of days
and that the actual attack would have come soon after. How they know that, I can't say. I read this on CNN, for what it's worth.

I'm also very glad these people have been caught and stopped. I hope the powers that be are able to learn more from them, and perhaps stop others who are plotting terrorist attacks.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:39 PM
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11. phrenzy is telling a little fable
here's cnn--
The men had not bought plane tickets, the officials said, but they were in the process of perusing the Internet to find flights to various cities that had similar departure times.



the girlfriend's flight today, assuming the young lady even exists, was never in any danger -- the bad guys had not purchased any tix yet!
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:42 PM
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13. Yeahhh, I made her up!
Holy shit - you conspiracy nuts are priceless! I KNOW they had not bought tickets, they were simply preparing for the "dry run" like they do for every operation like this. My point is, she was still close enough to the event for it to have easily fell on her day of departure. United Airlines and California were specifically mentioned in the plans. Why the fuck would i make this up??
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:43 PM
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14. apparently because you need attention
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 08:44 PM by pitohui
downthread, you claim she is flying today

but the news media and uk/usa/pakistani gov't say the men were still planning a dry run

it was never gonna happen today

it is shameful to make an event like this an occasion for attention seeking

linky: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:47 PM
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19. Did you not read my response?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:49 PM
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21. i read it and i read cnn, you've been BUSTED -- EOM
.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:52 PM
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23. Hey give the guy a break
one time I was late for work and when I finally left the house I
saw an accident that has just happened........pheww. That was close.
Then this other time a black cat crossed my path and well, I could have suffered fleas, or worse....death.

Then this other time.........

Well anyhow, it's a damn miracle I'm even alive.

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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:00 PM
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24. Pathetic. Done with you. "super sleuth".
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:06 PM
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26. hehehehehehe
come to think of it a black cat crossed my path yesterday too, titoresque

damn these fleas! :-)
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:16 PM
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30. don't bother to explain
you are not allowed to express fear of terror or the death of a loved one on a possibly targeted flight. there are people here who will fight you every syep of the way....see they believe terrorism doesn't exist or if it does it's committed by the US, great britain, and israel.

they don't believe moslems or arabs are capable of such heinous acts.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:20 PM
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33. That's what I'd like to know? Why did you?
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:26 PM
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5. How do you even know what kind of a terrorist plot they are
talking about. So far I have seen few to no details. I have to wonder if this is another terra group they found like the one in Miami who wouldn't be able to launch an attack on the Sears catalog let alone the Sears tower.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:28 PM
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6. I'm also glad the imaginary plan was thwarted
and that your loved ones are okay. It doesn't make this story any more real. I'm not a conspiracy nut, but the time comes where one has to face the truth staring them in their non lying face.

There is no real information being released about this other than 24 people were arrested. Maybe they'll find a saudi's passport in one of the English Pakistani's houses.

It's a crock. Pure and simple. Through and through.

Where's the war in Iraq. The civil war, that is.

What's happening in Lebanon. Besides mass murder, I mean.

Well! We have a terror alert once again with no real information.

Surprise, surprise.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:33 PM
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:34 PM
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8. When theres a spy in your midst reporting your every move
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html

thats all the evidence i need.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:36 PM
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10. It's a crock?
You don't have any facts, but you seem to have a lot of conclusions, Mosey Walker.

That's called a conspiracy theory: conclusions first, facts never.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:45 PM
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15. phrenzy's particular claim is a crock
see upstream
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:46 PM
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18. You really are 'proud' of yourself?
Or did you not see my answer to your 'damning evidence' of my making a ploy for attention?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:50 PM
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22. you've been BUSTED
making up tall tales to get attention is dishonorable
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:00 PM
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25. Either they plant em deep, or he's truly upset...
... Either way, I'll wait for a tad more information. My feeling is that this all went public DUE to the Pakistani arrests, forcing the Brits to move much earlier than they would have wanted to. The Pakis would have leaked quicker than our Mis-administration.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:10 PM
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28. either way a girlfriend flying today was never in any danger
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 09:11 PM by pitohui
jeez, i know a couple pulled off their roof in chalmette who lost EVERYTHING they had, house, all of their animals, their business, their community -- well the whole parish of st. bernard was destroyed -- and they made less fuss about it than this guy who is traumatized that his girlfriend went on an airplane and one day a pakistani or british terrorist MIGHT have gotten on a different airplane at some time in the unknown future

there are drama queens and then there are drama queens

what ever happened to the british qualities of courage and the stiff upper lip?

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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:17 PM
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32. "almost certainly marked as a target" - Was overstating it.
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 09:29 PM by phrenzy
I realized after reading my original post, that it DID actually come across more 'dramatic' than I wanted it to. I should have simply said "Could have been on one of the planes that would have ultimately been hijacked" But I was pissed at all of the fun-making of the thing in general.

What I was trying to express was this - not trying to get attention - but that, wow, it really hits you when somebody you love, who you were already worried about being over there in the first place, comes into any kind of proximity to a terrorist plot to actually blowing up their plane. She *was* in Heathrow *about* to board a plane when this panic started. I felt helpless.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:22 PM
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34. I see your point Phrenzy...
... my wife got pretty upset, and she was only THINKING about flying, domestic. They rely on this, ya know. Anyway, glad your SO is safe.
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:28 PM
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36. Yes It Sucks
Because it starts to make me have 'freeper like' anger. And I know that is not productive.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:45 PM
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16. KO said that the only evidence the media had of the "plan"
came from the two governments. :shrug:

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:40 PM
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12. Scotland Yard saw it as a legal matter
and acted acordingly. They didn't invade Chile.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:45 PM
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17. I'm glad too!
I agree that this shows how fighting terrorism the right way is superior to bombing countries and/or taking them over. That had to be a frightening experience for you and your girlfriend. I'm glad she's okay.
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 08:48 PM
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20. My "made up" girlfriend thanks you.
DU is really losing me today. Wow. Just... wow.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:09 PM
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27. Shouldn't you be out buying her flowers?
Or something to WOW her!
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:12 PM
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29. Heh - I have bigger plans..
I was already going crazy with her gone for 3 weeks straight.. Getting very.. umm.. Cranky.. And then this shit goes down and doesn't help matters... Anyway, we are on opposite sides of the bay area, so we take turns staying on one side or the other. This time I just got a nice hotel for us to chill at away from both places.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:17 PM
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31. That will be a very nice reunion.
:)
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:27 PM
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35. I understand what you are trying to say.
I'm sure at the time your girlfriend was waiting at Heathrow she was very concerned that she may have been on a doomed flight and you felt the same way.She could not have possibly known at the time that the terrorist act was not meant for today.I'm glad your loved one is safe.Ignore the vileness on this thread aimed at you,it's rude and creepy.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:33 PM
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37. Having Been Out of Comms on 9/11
And having my husband freak out because he couldn't reach me, I can certainly sympathize with your plight. I have friends in Germany right now, another friend going to London in a couple of weeks, and I'm getting on a plane to Las Vegas in less than a week. I'm not scared, but I'm certainly concerned. (Truth be told, I'm more concerned that we're going to have to check our laptop, which I was planning on using while on the plane flight...)

Hugs to you and your lady!
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:45 PM
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38. I agree with you.
A friend of mine recently returned from a three-month stay in the UK. Today another gal in our circle of friends was remarking on how glad she is that K is home now.

I ignore all the terrah talk, because as a somewhat tightly wound overprotective mother I would go completely bonkers otherwise. It is a huge jolt to my nervous system when it occurs to me that something actually might happen and how pathetically unprotected we are in this country.
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