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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:18 PM
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Al Franken is de-clothing Juan Williams on AAR now.
Telling Williams, in so many words, that his book is basically the minstrel show that Williams is accusing Dave Chapelle of doing.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:19 PM
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1. who?
:shrug:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:21 PM
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4. Juan Williams from NPR ...
also appears on faux news as the token black liberal, but usually just agrees with whatever Brit Hume says.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:21 PM
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5. Juan Williams is one of Faux News token black, liberals. He's on NPR too.
He has a new book.
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gunsaximbo Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:32 PM
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9. He's a RW bushler punch drinker.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:40 PM
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13. True. He's arguing with Al at this very minute on AAR.
Welcome to DU. :hi:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:45 PM
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21. Juan Williams must be one of the two rubber stamp African Americans

on Faux.

They both sold their souls to the devil.

Sister goclark
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gunsaximbo Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 06:40 PM
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33. Yes, although he's not one that is being paid by the
fascist criminal whitehouse to "report" favorable stories for the SS. He beleives what he says and is VERY SMUG about it.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 12:57 AM
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34. That is so sad


Isn't he the one that one of the clowns at Faux said something racist to about 4 months ago. I can't remember the circumstances now.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:21 PM
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27. What's his book about?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:21 PM
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6. He's a Fox analyst and he also works for NPR n/t
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:20 PM
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2. Is that the guy on the Brit Hume panel?
What's the book about?
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:23 PM
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7. William's book is entitled "Enough".
In it, he criticizes blacks for what he believes is perpetuating the black stereotype: violent, immoral and welfare dependent. He attacks people like Snoop Dog and Dave Chapelle.

Franken is saying that Williams is doing the same thing in his book that he accuses others of doing. And Williams did not rebut Franken. I think Franken is right.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:25 PM
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8. Snoop Dog should be attacked for "Shizzle"
he should be beaten with a copy of the Unabridged Webster's Dictionary.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:20 PM
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3. what?
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:34 PM
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10. If You Write A Book Attacking Jesse Jackson, and Other Prominent...
African Americans, it gets published. It's a form of racism by proxy. Shelby Steele, Larry Elder, and now Juan Williams have done this to enrich themselves.

The problems of poor African American working class people is the same as the problems of all poor working class Americans, a profound lack of jobs that can lift them out of poverty and into the middle class.

Anti-social behavior, drugs, crimes, illeteracy, etc. are tied into a culture of economic hopelessness. These kids won't straighten up and fly right if they don't see a real path in front of them, and there's nothing that Dave Chappelle, Snoop Dog, Bill Cosby, nor Jesse Jackson can do.

The only solution involves a deep investment by the government into poor communities through education and other programs that can lift these people out of poverty. Once they see a path, then they will follow it, because low paying jobs at McDonald's ain't gonna do it.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:37 PM
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11. I'd like to see Michael Eric Dyson give his opinion of Mr Williams' book.
Heh.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:38 PM
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12. Al is giving him a hard enough time as it is...
I doubt this RW toadie would go up against someone like Dyson
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:40 PM
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14. wow
Juan is being a huge dick about his, isn't he?
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:46 PM
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22. Williams trying to defend O'Reilly now.
Williams is a hypocrite, just like all the other rethugs. Notice how he sidesteps Franken's point about O'Reilly dissing the NO blacks.

Nice job by Franken, exposing the hypocrite.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:40 PM
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15. Juan Williams wrote a book about rap?
That's like Merv Griffin writing about punk rock...

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:41 PM
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17. or better yet, Pat Boone
:rofl:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:20 PM
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26. Well Pat would have a LITTLE more cred on that
He did do that one metal album...



...the horror...the horror...

:)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:24 PM
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28. yeah, but his tatoos were FAKE, as in the "wash off" kind
:D
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:41 PM
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16. AAR radio link:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:43 PM
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18. Bill O'Reilly is the most popular talk show personality
in the nation?
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:45 PM
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19. Yeah he got called out on that one
lol :rofl:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:10 PM
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25. What was the counter-argument?
NT
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:26 PM
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29. Williams said in his book...
that O'Reilly was the most popular talk show host on TV. Franken pointed out that Leno and Oprah get better ratings and Williams sheepishly replied "I meant on cable TV, and you should know what I mean by that"
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:35 PM
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32. he was very defensive in his poo-pooing Al
:rofl:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:45 PM
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20. I can't believe he said that. Bill's only popular (sort of ) on cable TV.
Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 12:47 PM by CottonBear
Now Juan's defending O'Reilly's racist comments about Katrina victims. :(

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:49 PM
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23. I bet Juan's sorry he stayed on for another 15 minutes. n/t
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:05 PM
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24. Hell, At Least When Cosby Criticized Blacks
He did so in their faces in the belly of the beast, and continues to do so in the black community. All Juan Williams is doing is making a few bucks off of College Republicans.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:31 PM
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30. Juan still has his "Eyes on the Prize" I see.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 01:34 PM
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31. Williams' project was more authentic when Ice Cube did it
Us
Ice Cube

Verse One:

Could you tell me who released our animal instinct?
Got the white man sittin' there tickled pink.
Laughin' at us on the avenue
Bustin' caps at each other after havin' brew
We can't enjoy ourselves
Too busy jealous... Of each other's wealth
Commin' up is just in me
But the Black community is full of envy
Too much back-stabbin'
While I look up the street I see all the japs grabbin'
Every vacant lot in my neighborhood
Build a store, and sell their goods
To the county of sips (?)
You know us po niggas: nappy hair and big lips?
Four or five babies on your crotch
And you expect Uncle Sam to help us out?
We ain't nothin' but porchmonkeys
To the average bigot, redneck honky
You say comin' up is a must
But before we can come up, take a look at US

Verse Two:

And all y'all dope-dealers...
Your as bad as the po-lice- cause ya kill us
You got rich when you started slangin' dope
But you ain't built us a supermarket
So when can spend our money with the blacks
Too busy buyin' gold an' Caddilacs
That's what ya doin' with the money that ya raisin'
Exploitin' us like the Caucasians did
For 400 years - I got 400 tears- for 400 peers
Died last year from gang-related crimes
That's why I got gang-related rhymes
But when I do a show ta kick some facts
Us Blacks don't know how ta act
Sometimes I believe the hype, man
We're messin' up ourselves and blame the white man
But don't point the finger you jiggaboo
Take a look at yourself ya dumb nigga you
Pretty soon hip-hop won't be so nice
No Ice Cube, just Vannilla Ice
And yall sit and scream and cus
But there's no one ta blame- but US


Verse Three:

US ... will always sing the blues
'Cause all we care about is hairstyles and tennis shoes
But if ya step on mine ya pushed a button
Cause I'll beat you down like it ain't nothin'
Just like a beast
But I'm the first nigga ta holler out (PEACE, BLACK MAN)
I beat my wife and children to a pulp
When I get drunk and smoke dope
Got a bad heart condition
Still eat hog-mogs an' chitlin's
Bet my money on the dice and the horses
Jobless, so I'm a hope for the armed forces
Go to church but they tease us
Wit' a picture of a blue-eyed Jesus
They used to call me Negro
After all this time I'm still bustin up the chiffarobe
No respect and didn't know it
And I'm havin' more babies than I really can afford
In jail 'cause I can't pay the mother
Held back in life because of my color
Now this is just a little summary
Of US, but yall think it's dumb of me
To put a mirror to ya face, but trust
Nobody gives a fuck about...
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 01:01 AM
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35. Juan turned a long time ago. I thought I was going loopy.
But he's in unity with the yellow line and dead armadillos for sure.
Hope the man's getting paid at least.
One thing's for sure. They'll toss him in the fire like a used tissue when they can.
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