Please help me find a statistic to refute a republican on home ownership.

Can anyone point me to a balanced (and current) survey/census that evaluates political party affiliation and home ownership? Ive tried the US census, google and zogby and am not coming up with anything even though I know they are bound to be out there.

Ive got a republican friend who swears that home owners are overwhelmingly republican.


Muchas Gracias in advance.

Too often we let ourselves be put in the position of refuting a right wing claim that they can't document.

Turn it around. Tell him to put up or shut up.

and proof instead of just words, opinions and reverse fingerpointing.

Just ask, "Oh, where did you read that?"

Why be the go-fer scrambling for facts to refute every piece of drivel they produce?

I mean, Id expect repub vs dem home ownership to be the most equal it has ever been considering the closeness of the last elections... I wouldnt expect say, a 75 / 25 split... But that isnt to say that it isnt the reality.

On a sidenote.. I know way more poor republicans then dems here in WA.

First off, any data relating to it will be incomplete. No survey, especially not the census, requires you to state party affiliation. So any numbers are going to be secondary to some other survey being done, and so would not necessarily be an accurate sampling.

Second, as others have said below, poor people tend not to own their own homes, AND they vote Democratic. No surprises there.

Also, consider the more liberal states - NY, CA, IL - in the most liberal areas, property values are incredibly high. Even with a moderate income, you're not going to be able to afford a lot of housing.

Here's the only numbers I could scare up - a listing of home ownership rates by state.

http://www.danter.com/STATISTICS/homeown.htm

You could SOMEWHAT match it up with the old Red vs. Blue maps, but again that isn't going to show you a definitive correlation. I'm in Minnesota - we've voted reliably for every Democratic presidential candidate since Carter in 1976. Yet we also have one of the highest home ownership rates. That would serve to disprove your friend's assertion. But then look at NY & CA - they're the opposite.

I'm all for confronting the nutcases with the facts, but you're really not going to find much OTHER than opinion and conjecture on this topic, I'd think.

I started doing thise calculation.. and determined it wasnt worth the time.

I guess the statistic that Im looking for isnt an easy find. I do know that I personally have taken phone census interviews where I have been asked what my political affiliation and home ownership status was..

Drat..

if the repug party is the party of the rich, most rich people own homes. Our party is more diverse, and inclusive, we embrace minorities, and the poor, with open arms. Minorities and people living in poverty are less likely to own homes. I would see it as a badge of honor, if fewer Democrats own homes. We are the party trying to lift these people up, and help them achieve the American dream.

...Then why are you asking for facts that support a particular position? Call me old fashioned, but it seems to me that you'd be better off getting the facts BEFORE you decide what the facts are.

I biasly worded my title due to the fact that I am on "Democratic" underground and I thought that it would be something someone might have on the ready in reference to Democrats.

It kind of makes sense if you think about who is likely to be wealthy enought to afford a house and who the poor would generally support politically (the party most likely to give a shit about them)

Also a lot of rw idiots probably own thier own trailers.

http://www.kestan.com/images/NM/IMG_0252%20trailor,%20woods,%20snow.JPG

GAWD BLESS GEORGE BUSH!

reguarding the increased number of forclosure during the Bush admin would shut him up-the hell with the political persuasing....there are no political affiliation among the homeless.
You're chasing a red herring. Now extrapolate by wealth and you might have something.

I guess the gist of this argument is that republicans overwhelmingly "carry" dems in the ways of publicly provided services. And I just dont feel that is the case. I can't argue property tax issues, because honestly.. I am in favor of incredibly low property taxes..

But raised sales and income taxes.

the gist of this argument is that republicans overwhelmingly "carry" dems in the ways of publicly provided services

Bullshit!
http://mediamatters.org/items/200405100002

You might be interested to know that sales taxes disproportionately hit the poor, BTW.

Did you know? ~ A handy political breakdown
of homeowners and renters.

Ever wonder how many homeowners in the U.S. are registered Republicans? About as many as are registered Democrats, according to Larry J. Sabato's report titled "Polling Observations on Home Ownership and Politics."

Republicans makes up 36 percent of homeowners, 37 percent are Democrats and 21 percent are Independents. For renters, the numbers don't break down quite as evenly. Twenty percent of renters are Republicans, 39 percent are Democrats, and 31 percent are Independent.

The value of a person's home, the study found, is strongly correlated with party affiliation. Only 24 percent of homes under $50,000 are owned by Republicans, while 49 percent of homes worth more than $300,000 are Republican-owned. Interestingly, the poll found that 91 percent of homeowners intend to vote in the 2000 election, while only 78 percent of renters say they plan to vote.

Sabato is the founder and director of the Center for Governmental Studies, at the University of Virginia. The center was founded in 1998 as a non-partisan, public-interest center with the twin missions of advancing political education and encouraging political reform.

Source: Inman News Features

http://www.gniar.com/whats_new/newsletter/current_nl/housing/h_political.html

Why is it that some people think they are rich if they vote Republican?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/auntie/01/2001_auntie_06.html

this one:

http://www.americanhomeowners.org/AHGA/Policy%20Guide/homeowners_policy_agenda.htm

"In a national survey just prior to the 2000 elections, 91% of homeowners classified themselves as very likely to vote (second only to retirees among major population segments). Most homeowners are politically moderate; 23% are independents and the remainder is split evenly between the two major political parties. The American Homeowners Grassroots Alliance (AHGA) seeks to reflect that philosophical balance in the development of its policy and execution of its advocacy programs."

But no link or reference for the survey itself.

That helped me find this:

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/downloads/pub_housing_2.pdf

who can't pay their mortgages because their finances are stretched so thin with their big SUV's, etc, that they lose their homes to the bank.

Tell your friend that mtnsnake swears that. ;)

Including recently former Repukes, of course.

.... Democrats are the new conservatives. Republicans are the ones so interested in looking prosperous they spend themselves into a hole.