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JohMunich99 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:36 PM
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Fine line in British terrorist plot
A. How many people believe that British intelligence/police trumped up terrorist charges against innocent British citizens in an attempt to boost Republicans three months before the USA national elections?

B. Or A, plus they did it in an effort to deflate the good news of Lamont's win in CT (despite the fact that if this news would have been released on Monday or Tuesday of this week, it could have killed Lamont's candidacy all together)

C. How many people believe the Bush administration is hyping the shit out of a legitimate British investigation that took out actual "evil-doers"?

D. Everything the Bush administration in response to this terrorist threat is in itself legitimate.

I personally believe C myself, but I'm curious as to what other people think. I'll admit that this poll is a little slanted, but I guess that's why I'm not going into poll writing. Anyway, let's hear what you think.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:40 PM
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1. C....
I also heard today that the US put pressure on the Brits to go now... The Brits wanted to wait longer to build a stronger case...

So maybe Bush wanted the bust now to glide into 9/11 and keep the terror in the news for a full month...
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JohMunich99 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:42 PM
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2. That's weird
You would think that Bush, er... I mean Karl would want to wait until closer to the election.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:44 PM
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3. NAw it through off the constant bad news from
Israel and Hezbullah...

It gave them some cover to work out a ease fire...

Plus, it stressed the only segment of the Bush Agenda that is in positive territory....
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:46 PM
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4. It's not quite that simple.
In any case, mid August is a fine time to reinvigorate the fear of terror, particularly if it involves air travel. Also, blair is pushing to hold those guys for 90 days before filing charges. That takes us right through the election season doesn't it?
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:47 PM
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5. I thought you said you believed C yourself, then when someone
else says C, you think it's weird? Your poll is weird.

For the record, put down C for me, too. Although, it's not like the Brits never shot an innocent person in a moment of terrorysteria. Who knows who gave them the info on these "innocent people" they were investigating. I don't believe ANYTHING anymore.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:05 AM
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6. Check out BBC's comments from people...
I just spent over an hour reading page after page after page of comments to the question "UK terror plot: Do you feel safer?" Most of the comments came from people in the UK, but some comments from US & other countries. They have their share of right wingnuts too, but the majority of the comments expressed outrage at Bush & Blair and said they'd feel safer when both of them are out of power.

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=3122&&edition=2&ttl=20060813055157

BTW, for your poll:
"A" in unreasonable. Most Brits now are so pissed at the US & Tony.
"B" They don't care about US elections. They've got their own problems.
"C" Yes, of course Bush is hyping the shit out of this, as he does anything that has to do with terrorism. However, whether those arrested are actual "evil-doers" may now never be known, thanks to our government that forced the Brits to make the arrests before they were done investigating to get some real evidence on these guys. The claim that the threat was imminent & about to be put into operation is quite suspicious too, since most of those arrested didn't even have passports. Read this article from MSNBC: http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fmsnbc.msn.com%2Fid%2F14320452%2F
"D" Nothing the Bush administration/regime does is legitimate. How can it be, when even their "election" is suspicious...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:16 AM
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7. Absolutely C
Which is why sneering at the plot is the wrong tactic to take anyway, the Bushies rushing this terrorist investigation for political purposes is just another example of them putting GOP power ahead of good foreign policy and real national security. That's the real crime they've committed and if someone wants to kneejerk against this administration, that's the smart approach to take anyway.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:44 AM
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8. Probably C - the plotters haven't been tried yet
but, the investigation looks legit - and no doubt * and friends are hyping it to death - Fear The Tan Man!!! All your toothpaste/shampoo/coffee are belong to us :P
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:51 AM
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9. c...with understanding it is way beyond hyping the shit out of it
what bushco's has doen is way worse than hyping the shit out of it. leaving shit out, not telling the whole stor and what they did in the airports put it beyond just hyping the shit out of it. this is people fearful and trusting in their govt with stuff they cannot know. the public can only trust govt for this information. what happened is an abuse of each and every person in those airports that were forced to throw out personal stuff, that all knew was not dangerous. and to create the environment they did. knwoing those terrorists were not in position within the next day or so, but a much longer time table. it is an abuse to the public. and all should be pissed

they have also once again created the environment where they are trust even less than before if that is possible. and that puts this nation and the people unable to trust in greater danger
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