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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:17 AM
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GQ Exclusive: The Untold Story Behind The Infamous Abu Ghraib Pictures

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060814/nym138.html?.v=53

GQ Exclusive: The Untold Story Behind The Infamous Pictures of Prisoner Abuse at Abu Ghraib That Rocked The World


Joe Darby, the American Soldier Who Exposed Mistreatment of Iraqi Prisoners, Gives His First-Person Account


<snip>

Among Darby's startling revelations:

- The American abuse "wasn't a conspiracy - it was negligence, plain and
simple."

"Nobody in command knew about the abuse, because nobody in command cared
enough to find out."

...

- "The abuse started earlier than anybody realizes."

" ... there were things going on before our unit even got there. The
day we arrived, back in October of 2003, we were getting a tour of the
compound and we saw like fifteen prisoners sitting in their cells in
women's underwear. This was day one; nobody from our unit had ever set
foot in the prison. We asked the MPs in charge -- the Seventy-second,
out of Las Vegas -- why the prisoners were wearing panties. They told
us that it was a corrective action, that these guys had been mortaring
the compound."

- "There were other (U.S.) government agencies who would come into the
prison and handle prisoners. I can't say which agencies, but you can
probably guess."

"One night, this Black Hawk landed at about 4 a.m., and a couple guys
came in with a prisoner and took him to tier 1, put sheets up so that
nobody could see, and spent the rest of the night in there. They told
us to stay away, so we did. Then a couple hours later, they came back
out. They were like, 'The prisoner is dead.' They asked for ice to
pack him, and then they said, 'You guys clean this up. We weren't here.
Have a good day.' Got back on the bird and took off, left the dead body
right there. Those guys can come in and kill a guy, and there's nothing
you can do. There's no record of them. They were never there. They
don't exist.

You've probably seen pictures of that prisoner with (Charles) Graner and
(Sabrina) Harman crouching next to his dead body, giving the thumbs-up.
Well, that's the guy. Everybody takes that picture at face value, but
the truth is, Graner and Harman didn't kill him."


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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:24 AM
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1. ahhh yes...
we are winning hearts and minds of Iraqi's..democracy is on the march!!


candies, and flowers anyone??

fly
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:26 AM
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2. When you think about the mindset and group dynamics that he...
...had to contend with--both personally and among his peers--it makes what Joe Darby did doubly amazing. He really is a hero.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:29 AM
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3. Darby didn't leak those photos to CBS - someone MUCH HIGHER did.
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 09:47 AM by leveymg
Perhaps, as high as the JCS Staff level. By the way, nobody was ever disciplined for that leak, so that should tell you something. That's how serious the "revolt of the Generals" has been.

To anyone who believes that -- after the catastrophe and shame of the Iraq occupation, and the recent bloodying of the IDF in Lebanon -- the Generals will cooperate with any GO ORDER handed down by Cheney and Rumsfeld to attack Iran, I have this to say:

"NUTS."

BTW: Graner and Harman were never accused of killing anyone. They were just stupid enough to have their pictures taken with the corpse afterward.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:41 AM
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4. Some questions...
The Gonzales Torture Memos contradicts the 'not a conspiracy'.
Weren't the Iraqis were firing on the prison compound in response to the notes from the women asking to be killed?
And wasn't Rumsfeld supposed to have been present at least one of the torture/interrogation sessions?

How the heck did Joe Darby get out of there safely?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:46 AM
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5. On your last question - he's been protected by the brass.
Darby was cleared of any wrongdoing by the review board, and he and his wife were given protective custody. If the brass had wanted to do him in, they would've found a way.

It's Rummy and the neocons who've tried to get Darby, not the Army brass.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:07 AM
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6. Thanks for the info.
:hi:
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