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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:44 PM
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Bush: "Some say that America caused the current instability"

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_226164034.html

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Some say that America caused the current instability in the Middle East by pursuing a forward strategy of freedom, yet history shows otherwise.

...

History's clear: The freedom agenda did not create the terrorists or their ideology, but the freedom agenda will help defeat them both.

Some say that the violence and instability we see today means that the people of this troubled region are not ready for democracy. I disagree. Over the past five years people across the Middle East have bravely defied the car bombers and assassins to show the world that they want to live in liberty.

We see the universal desire for liberty in the 12 million Iraqis who faced down the terrorists to cast their ballots and elected a free government under a democratic constitution.

We see the universal desire for liberty in 8 million Afghans who lined up to vote for the first democratic government in the long history of their country.

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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:47 PM
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1. I've never seen the Middle East soo free....
"free" = chaos..
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:48 PM
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2. They'll be erecting *'s statue in the grand square soon, no f'in doubt. nt
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:48 PM
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3. The Freedom Agenda
Add that to your neocon dictionary
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:01 PM
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10. Not to be confused with the neocons other favorite...
...agenda to talk about...the insidious "GAY AGENDA". The Freedom Agenda is not to be mistaken for an agenda in which people are free to do as they please and love whom they love, the Freedom Agenda comes at the barrel of a gun, and involves Freeing nations from their precious resources...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:48 PM
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4. freedom agenda?
oh yeah... freedom from those pesky troubles... like bodies. :grr:

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:50 PM
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5. I can't believe I'm reading this...
My old, cynical comments about the presidential and national "package" never rang so true. This is "package" thrusting in Hezbollah's (and Iran's) face, not one iota more subtle or sophisticated than that.

That's just sad.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:50 PM
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6. "Some say"... hey Bush, you dumb fuck, NAME ONE PERSON!
I have certainly never heard anyone make that strawman claim, except your stupid ass
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:55 PM
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7. We see Universal Desire for Liberty in the 53 million DEMOCRATS
WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR BUSH!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:58 PM
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8. "Some" is over 98% of the world's entire population.
I rounded abit IN HIS FAVOR; I figured 6 Billion for world population
and 99 million for the Backwash 33% of Americans who still support
his murderous, incompetent antics.
I Doubled the 99mil, to account for lunatic fringe elements in other nations,
then knocked it back to 99 again because at LEAST half of his supporters
know we CAUSED this- they just don't have any problem with it.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:00 PM
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9. Ah, the "Freedom Agenda" - haven't heard that shit since 1/05
Gosh, I wonder why . . .
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:03 PM
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11. Lord! -snip-
History's clear: The freedom agenda did not create the terrorists or their ideology, but the freedom agenda will help defeat them both.





7th grade poly-sci? :shrug:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:07 PM
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12. Freedom Agenda...hahahaha
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 05:09 PM by Rex
Operation Freedom Agenda, will seem at times we are invading other countries. In truth, we will be freeing them of their governments, we will free them of running water and electricity. We will free people from electricity here in America, so we don't have to free anymore electricity in 'foreign lands'. May God bless our Freedom Agenda!
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:08 PM
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13. "history shows otherwise"
it does? I thought you couldn't be bothered to read, Georgie?

I'm pretty sure it shows that - while not strictly America - Imperialistic attitudes by Europe and America have certainly been a major factor in the Middle East.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:10 PM
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14. Back in the day
(and you young folks can turn to a trusted elder or Google it if you like) we had a technology called "vinyl record albums" which could be played at either 33 RPM (that meant revolutions per minute) or 45 RPM. The 45 RPM was meant for little short playing discs called "singles", but for fun, you could set the switch to play an LP at 45 RPM, and it would sound all high-pitched and sped-up. It's because of the higher amount of "spin".

This is why GWB sometimes sounds like Alvin & the Chipmunks. Too much spin.

"Some say" means nothing less than "my straw idiot" and "forward strategy of freedom" means nothing less than "nice sounding buzzwords to describe our agenda, whatever that may happen to be." I think the real criticism is that the Bush policy doesn't help the instability, or worsens it, and that the issue isn't freedom, it's radicalism--and warring against states when the problem is independent terrorist non-government groups is a...let's call it "flawed strategy". No one is saying "terrorism is great, don't fight it," or "some people don't deserve to be free". Critics are saying "Fight it intelligently" and "Let the people decide." Or that's my spin.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:11 PM
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15. The saddest thing is that * believes they believe this.
He really thinks that people in Iraq and Afghanistan view Americans as liberators and bringers of truth, justice and chocolate bars.

I'm convinced now. He isn't just isolated, uncurious, or even just stupid. He's mad. Totally batshit crazy, and he's going to end up killing us all unless the military somehow neutralizes him.

Either that, or this is a very convincing psywar operation to try to convince Iran that he's crazy, and they should back down on their nuclear program.

My guess, if it's the latter, it won't work. If it's the former, he may just believe he's rapture-ready, and end up blowing up the world.
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