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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:05 PM
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Official Conyers Forum - NSA Dom. Spying Thread 2
Official Conyers Forum Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x192174
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:06 PM
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1. k&r. What a harrowing story!
Yeesh!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:06 PM
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2. Wow, they have fingers in everything!
How do the churches like him now?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:07 PM
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3. " I was spied on in a house of worship, and in private homes"
:scared:

this is just SO wrong!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:09 PM
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7. Richard Herch makes my blood boil. DAMN THIS ADMINISTRATION
and thank you Richard for coming up to washington to tell us the truth.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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72. Seriously?
:scared:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:08 PM
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4. Viva, love your eyeball. PERFECT for the day.
:)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:08 PM
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5. This is a scathing indictment against the blivet! I feel really
sorry for this man, and really angry at the government. :mad:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:09 PM
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this is absolutely incredible.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:09 PM
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6. Ok, I am crying now. He broke the damn for me!
:cry: What have we become?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:12 PM
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17. Wasn't he something. Nice man and look at what our gov did to him!
Don't cry, Sydnie.:hug: We'll stop these rat bastards!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:16 PM
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19. You are a dear heart - I will gladly stand with you to do just that
Let's get these rat bastards! I want my country back ... NOW!

:hug: thanks sweetie. It means so much to me not to be alone with all of this.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:09 PM
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8. Caroline Frederickson of ALCU up now
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:09 PM
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9. Where will these transcripts be posted? Anyone know?
Conyer's site?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:09 PM
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10. His testimony was very DAMNING! Now, ACLU Frederickson
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 12:10 PM by in_cog_ni_to
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:09 PM
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11. gotta go pick up my son - please rec this thread y'all!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:10 PM
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14. bye helder!
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:10 PM
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12. I wish Conyers had more power and could get this on all media outlets
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:10 PM
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13. Look at the man w tan jacket hehind Ms Frederickson,
He is wearing a Bush Cheated "04 button. Bwa-haha!
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:12 PM
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16. I was looking at that earlier. I thought at first it was a
B/C 04 pin, but he kept agreeing with positive head nods when Turley was speaking so I gathered it must be a Bush Cheated pin. :)
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:14 PM
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18. There in full view! Wish Rosebud was here!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:40 PM
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83. Ooo that's great!
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:11 PM
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15. Frederickson calls for a SPECIAL COUNSEL
yes. yes. yes and yes.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:18 PM
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20. Very impressive.
Watching these hearings is a treat. This is what democracy should look like at the federal level .... not the president giving some pre-packaged speech in front of a red, white, and blue backdrop.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:20 PM
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21. Too bad they're again relegated to a basement. nt
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:23 PM
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24. as long as there are lights and cameras....bring them on! nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:24 PM
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26. "The House is run like a Plantation" Hillary was spot on.
These honorable people should not be relegated to the damn BASEMENT. :grr:
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:22 PM
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22. What is product of these hearings?
A report? A press release? A house resolution offered by participants? A full page ad in NYT?

How can the important testimony today become durable and widespread, heard by more than those who watch cspan?

Since NSA spying has wide interest in both parties, will we see more reporting and discussion than we did for Conyers' other hearings?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:35 PM
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63. buy a full page ad....always a good idea.
otherwise every progressive blog should post Turley's
words in large and bold type..President Bush committed
a crime.

Send the transcripts around to your political lists.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:22 PM
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23. Kate Martin
"We were assured repeatedly that Americans right to privacy was being protected"

they lied to us
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:24 PM
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25. "and that most likely is the justification for keeping this program secret
...on the wiretapping of American citizens.
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:25 PM
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31. She is brilliant. Fantastic analysis of breaking pre-existing laws
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:24 PM
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27. Conyers, "I assure you that this is not just a hearing...
and we will move on to other things."

Q&A coming up.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:25 PM
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28. Questions now
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 12:25 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
Nadler is in da house! :)
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:25 PM
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29. Good part from Conyer's now - Historic point in America n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:25 PM
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30. Nadler's up!
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:26 PM
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33. Nadler says Bush's arguments could only by made by a monarch
hehehe.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:27 PM
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He is doing great.......
noting Bush is claiming power beyond that in Germany.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:29 PM
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43. yeah...our own Reichwing. nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:25 PM
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32. Nadler up!! He was great during the Sensenbrenner debacle.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:26 PM
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35. Yes he was! n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:27 PM
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36. He was the one who was talking when Sensenbrenner cut off the
microphone, right? He was not a happy camper!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:48 PM
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104. I believe so
He kicked ass.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:26 PM
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34. Nadler: Actions of a monarch!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:27 PM
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38. Yeah!
"this cannot stand"
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:27 PM
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37. WOW... Nadler just said the B*sh is claiming the power
even to order a hit man to go down there and shoot them... If he say's it's necessary for National Security... it would be legal
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:27 PM
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39. "Bush is claiming absolute power, that no one else in this country
has ever claimed"
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:28 PM
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40. Beautiful statement. n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:28 PM
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41. criminal conspiracy....yes it is
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:29 PM
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42. The "House SHOULD BE holding hearings, but doubt that will happen
because the repuke members will not stand up for the Constitution." WHOA! Good one!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:29 PM
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44. Nadler kicks ass
staute of limitations lasts beyond the end of the administration...
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:30 PM
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45. President, VP, or anyone that participates in this crime can be
prosecuted! Go Nadler Go!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:30 PM
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46. Why do we need a Congress at all?
If he can do anything "in the name of National Security"
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:30 PM
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47. Oh my God, Nadler has said it. There is no confidence in the House .
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:31 PM
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48. turn up Turley's microphone
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:31 PM
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49. Turley says it is impeachable!
High Crimes and Misdemeanors!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:31 PM
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50. Questioning Turley now.
Do you believe these are High Crimes and Misdemeanors? Turley, "Frankly, I do."
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:32 PM
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51. Throwing the "I" word around there
"most high crimes and misdemeanors... have fallen under misconduct"

"how can you argue that this does not violate the statute"
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:32 PM
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54. "if the President has committed a criminal act"
"you are OBLIGATED to hold hearings, you are setting a precedent"
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:33 PM
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55. Ladies and Gentleman we have the beginnings of Impeachment happening
We ge tthe house in 06. Commander in thief is out.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:32 PM
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52. In order to examine the criminal conspiracy involving the pres, VP,
and others,... to ask this AG to investigate itself would be wrong. We must appoint a special prosecutor.

(paraphrased)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:32 PM
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53. High Crimes and Misdemeanors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bush is so screwed.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:34 PM
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56. From their mouths to God's ear. But truthfully, who's gonna enforce it./nt
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:35 PM
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62. WE WILL!
WE the PEOPLE! Damnit! He works for US!!!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:44 PM
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92. Exactly... Thanks
I'm really sick of Naysayers... If I was a troll, I'd would do the same thing they do...

"we'll never make it",

"give up while you can",

or

"don't even try".


Here's a clue freepers and dumbasses: If you think it's all a waste of time, get lost!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:34 PM
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59. WOOT I'M BACK AND THEY ARE TALKING IMPEACHMENT!!!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:35 PM
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64. They sure are! This is AWESOME! Welcome back!
:hi:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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71. thanks! I have chills!!
:hi:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:35 PM
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61. Kick nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:34 PM
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57. "not only is it a crime"
"it also violates separation of powers"
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:34 PM
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58. Textbook example for impeachment!
I want to have this guys babies! :rofl:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:12 PM
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123. me too, and I am pushing 50 with sore joints and very tired! nt
:rofl:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:34 PM
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60. TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!!!!!!
Turley. :woohoo:
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:49 PM
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108. wow. And he's no firebrand leftie activist, either.
Spin that one for us, Scotty.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:36 PM
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65. "Fein, what would you have done... under Reagan?"
answer, "but, it does seem to me that an attorney has to defend the Constitution of the United States, and resignation is the only remedy"

not an exact quote - I can't type that fast.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:37 PM
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66. Reiterate that the separation of powers is still alive.
yeah, that should be effective :eyes:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:37 PM
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67. Conyers: To Mr. Fein, what would YOU have done if this happened during
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM by seafan
your service as former Associate Deputy AG under Reagan?

Fein: I was raised on Watergate..... Resignation would be the appropriate action (for the president) to take.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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73. I thought I heard that - I am glad that others did too n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:37 PM
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68. I'm watching it now
:D Is this an official hearing or one like in the basement with the DSM?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:37 PM
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69. Fein says give them a chance to take it back??!
Hell no!
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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77. IMPEACHMENT!!
Bush has been given way too many chances.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:40 PM
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Dude, you can't un-ring a bell.
and they can't stop what they are doing. I wouldn't believe them even if they said they would. The argument for NOT supporting that idea - Signing Statements.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:50 PM
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113. take it back?!?
when they're trying to press forward with these internet subpoenas and they're still claiming it's LEGAL? Bzzzt! Next contestant, please!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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70. "if he balks at that, then you really do have a King George III"
"and we did have a coronation, not an inauguration"
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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that ROCKED!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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74. HEADS UP - WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
Let's hope this is good.
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:40 PM
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82. Interesting strategy. Realistic approach as to the dangerous times we are
in.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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75. I think King George is gonna get a pass on this.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:39 PM
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78. my mom said the same thing
:( I hope you and she are wrong!
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:40 PM
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84. Me too, but that guy just made a very important point about the
lawsuit thing. Georgie can keep this thing tied up for years.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:45 PM
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93. Johnathan Turley Is Against BushCo?!
Not good for the Bushistas.

Jay
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:38 PM
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76. Conyers has signed a letter inquiring of Internet providers about
some of them turning over records of searches
to the administration.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:39 PM
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79. phone companies too
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:39 PM
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80. recommended by Fein...hold hearings outside DC....
yeah, that would be good if our Congresscritters
held town meetings about this issue.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:40 PM
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81. Fein "I think you should hold hearings, not in Washington"
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:40 PM
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85. Take it to the people!!! Where it belongs.
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:43 PM
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88. But does this necessitate a revolution from the American People?
This is the option that is left to us.
This is the promise in the Declaration of Independence
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:47 PM
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103. Sometimes you just need to do what is right.
And what is right is not necessarily predictable or safe. ANd who says a revolution need be violent?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:42 PM
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86. "Specter has announced that he is holding a hearing"
Will Dems be allowed to be involved?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:42 PM
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87. can they exclude them legally?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:43 PM
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90. at the other hearings, they were not allowed subpoena power
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 12:44 PM by FLDem5
so it was basically a "things are great" fest (example - the hearing on sunsetting some sections of the Patriot Act)

No dissenting opinions were heard.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:48 PM
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106. Laws mean NOTHING to them. n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:43 PM
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89.  a war on separation of powers - yep!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:44 PM
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91. turley..declaration of war by pres by saying he will continue to break
TO BREAK THE LAW..
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:45 PM
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95. War on separation of power
Basically, blivet** said - Stop me if you think you can, but I don't think you can. We MUST stop him!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:45 PM
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94. Fein suggests a joint House-Senate hearing
That would bring the Press in.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:46 PM
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97. just like Iran Contra hearings - oh yes that would bring in the press
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:46 PM
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98. This hearing is putting in briliant light just how broken our Democracy is
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:49 PM
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110. oh - PLEASE do that
then maybe they could get some DEM input.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:46 PM
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126. It would be HUGH!!!1! First Joint Hearings Since Iran-Contra
can't you just see the headlines now?!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:45 PM
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96. Fein calls for Joint House and Senate hearings!
Like Iran-Contra, so people understand the importance!
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:46 PM
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99. Hersch says it's time for us to act....
Bush has broken laws, has admitted he's broken laws
and it's time to hold him accountable
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:47 PM
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100. Awww. Mr. Hersh. I just LOVE that soft-spoken, brave man.
"I think it's time to hold this administration accountable." MEEEE TOOOO! WTG, Mr. Hersh!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:48 PM
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105. Me too.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:55 PM
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118. Do you mean Seymore Hersh?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:01 PM
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121. No. A man who was with the Quakers when they were spied on. HE was spied
on at the House of Worship and in his HOME. I "think: he's a Quaker?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 04:27 PM
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129. Richard Hersh--our next Cindy!???
She made it socially acceptable to protest the war. Will he make socially acceptable to discuss impeachment?

:headbang:
rocknation
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:47 PM
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101. Schiff "I would hope... this Administration would immediately
cease and desist..."

Right.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:47 PM
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102. Hersh: As a citizen, I've heard today that the president has broken
the law, he's admitted breaking the law, and he has not upheld the Constitution of the US.

It's time for us to act.

It's time for us to hold the president and his entire administration accountable for their actions. (paraphrased)



YES.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:49 PM
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107. Schiff's recommendations...
hope that administration would cease and desist
from illegal eavesdropping.

second, use the opportunity to use the conference
committee report on the Patriot Act that it wasn't authoring
the President to use eavesdropping outside the
FISA court.

Yeah, those are safe suggestions. :eyes:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:51 PM
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114. I want his ass IMPEACHED! He broke the LAW.
He admitted he broke the law and stated, on NATIONAL TV, he would continue to do so! IMPEACHMENT ONLY.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:56 PM
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119. I want him in the Hague and the whole lot of them
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:05 PM
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122. yeah, when you can't get justice in this country....
sad to say we look to an international court.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:51 PM
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116. asks the panel lawyers what is the most credible argument Bush has?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:49 PM
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109. did they bring up the spying timeline?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:50 PM
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112. not that I have heard n/t
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:50 PM
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111. Thread 3 is up!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=193416&mesg_id=193416
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:54 PM
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117. wrong place self delete
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 12:55 PM by Sydnie
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:51 PM
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115. James Bamford - Operation Northwoods
this guy is amazing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:00 PM
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120. I'll bet that room is bugged
and Rove and party are listening.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:15 PM
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124. Lol! They would be that stupid.
Perhaps they don't know about cspan and keep wondering, how do the American people know so much? How come they know about Al Gore's speech? NSA, spend a billion and find out now!!
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 03:58 PM
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127. It seems they like doing things the illegal way,
turning on the tube would be too easy....besides they want to hear all the remarks in the audiance and whatever's being said where there are no mikes......
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 04:07 PM
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128. You are absolutely correct, I was just struck by the absurdity of them all
Let's face it, if they were competent they wouldn't have to be crooked.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:23 PM
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125. Wexler's from FL. He must be pissed as hell about this Quaker
spying crap. He sounds pissed! Look at Mr. Hersh! I want to hug him!:hug:
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