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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:30 AM
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let's ensure american racial purity
and close the border and kick out the auslaender (german for foreigners).



SERIOUSLY, what the fuck is wrong with people?

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:34 AM
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1. Is "American" a race? e.o.m.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:41 AM
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2. meant in the same way "german" was considered a race
to the nazis. white is implied.



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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:45 AM
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4. If white is implied, then would closing the border be sufficient?
Have you heard any non-sarcastic proposals on DU for a ban on inter-racial marriage?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:52 AM
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5. that's not the point
i was illustrating the downright hitlerian atmosphere around here when the topic of illegal immigration comes up.

i have seen the following on DU:

close the borders
mass deportations
mass arrests

etc. etc. all offered as solutions for illegal immigrations. that's my point.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:57 AM
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6. Do the words "mass deportations" and "mass arrests" mean simply
"large numbers of deportations" and "large numbers of arrests"?

If enough people started openly breaking some law, then would you automatically oppose enforcement of that law regardless of what law it is?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:01 PM
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7. it depends on the law
not all infractions have the same weight: murder on a widespread scale, yes call out the troops.

immigration in spite of unfair immigration laws: i give much slack.

the difference between "mass" and "large numbers" is pointless and not worth discussing.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:08 PM
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8. Well, at least you made it clear that you're against murder.
Suppose some people say that some shopkeepers are putting them out of business with their unfairly competitive low prices or straining their budgets with their unfairly high prices. Would you allow mobs to smash the windows and loot from the shops or would you send in troops and/or police?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:11 PM
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9. that's not the point
what is the point you are trying to make?

are you trying to reduce the situation where i will agree with you that immigration laws are fair, i won't.

as far as any kind of rioting, it depends, i don't put property rights on a par with human rights.

what pigeonhole are you trying to guide me into?

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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:42 AM
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3. Nope
It's just a code word for white for some people
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:37 PM
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10. Class warfare and racial purity are indistinguishable....
...the oppressed and the down trodden are brothers and sisters against those who don't wish to relinquish power and control.

<snip>
On the Class Struggle and Race

"I believe there will ultimately be a clash between the oppressed and those doing the oppressing. I believe that there will be a clash between those who want freedom, justice and equality for everyone and those who want to continue the system of exploitation. I believe that there will be that kind of clash, but I don't think it will be based on the colour of the skin."

- Malcolm X


On the Individual in under Capitalism

"In bourgeois society capital is independent and has individuality, while the living person is dependent and has no individuality."

- Marx and Engels, The Communist Manifesto


On Marx's Contribution to the Understanding of Human Social Development

"...no credit is due to me for discovering the existence of classes in modern society, nor yet the struggle between them. Long before me bourgeois historians had described the historical development of this struggle of the classes, and bourgeois economists the economic anatomy of the classes. What I did that was new was to prove: 1) that the existence of classes is only bound up with particular historical phases in the development of production; 2) that the class struggle necessarily leads to the dictatorship of the proletariat; 3) that this dictatorship itself only constitutes the transition to the abolition of all classes and to a classless society."

- Marx in a letter to Weydenmeyer (1852)


On the Role of the Bourgeois Military

"I spent 33 years in the Marines. Most of my time being a high-classed muscle man for Big business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the rape of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street...."

- Smedley D. Butler (1881-1940) Major General (U.S. Marine Corps)
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:29 PM
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11. locking....
Please do not start threads to continue arguments
in another thread.
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