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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:37 AM
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Aussie WMD expert: Bush Administration interfered in Iraq WMD hunt

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/weapons-downer-admits-being-told/2006/08/31/1156817034562.html

Weapons: Downer admits being told

Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer, has confirmed for the first time that he was personally told by a senior Australian weapons inspector that the US-led weapons hunt in postwar Iraq was seriously flawed.

But he denies suppressing a damning six-page letter by the inspector, John Gee, who resigned from the Iraq Survey Group in March 2004.

The letter outlines in detail interference by the CIA and the Bush Administration in first reports about the weapons hunt to avoid finding that Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction.

Dr Gee, one of Australia's leading chemical weapons experts, briefed Mr Downer on his concerns after his resignation. He bluntly told him that he believed Iraq had no such weapons.


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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:46 AM
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1. Why believe the White House and the Pentagon when we have
Sean Hannity and Neal Boortz insisting that WMD HAVE BEEN FOUND?

Satire as thick as a president's skull
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:52 AM
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9. welcome to DU - and not just Hannity & Boortz
Sen. Rick Santorum and Rep. Peter Hoekstra, too.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:43 PM
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14. I get into this occasionally y with the numskulls at work...
They like to point to the box of old artillery shells as "proof" of WMDs... never mind that they had been manufactured many years ago, and were inert. The fact that a dozen(?) were still in existence after Saddam had been ordered to destroy them justified the whole war in Iraq... ::eyes::
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:03 PM
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19. But Junior said in his press conference last week that there were none
When I was listening to his breathtaking bungling, he said that they'd made a mistake and had faulty intelligence (hence it wasn't their fault) but that they didn't find any WMDs. Hannity and his ilk are pointing to a few rusted artillery shells left over from the Iran-Iraq war that were hopelessly useless due to age.

Still, a shocking number of Bushbots still believe we found WMDs.

Junior also said in that presser that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, but I'll bet the percentage of people who think he did is still staggering. Even better, Dim Son said that nobody in his administration ever claimed that Hussein had anything to do with 9-11. That's a juicy little clip that I hope gets used; he's said it in front of cameras on two other occasions I know of, too.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:50 AM
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2. Important post
thanks sabra
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:54 AM
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3. np, just another item to add to the list
one day, the truth will come out...
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:02 AM
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4. Recommended
Thanks for bringing this to light. This info should become part of the collective case against the * administration's handling of the Iraq situation.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:10 AM
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5. Another piece of evidence that BushCo really engaged in LIHOP/MIHOP
...on virtually all that they touched.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:16 AM
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6. Nice try Bush
After all this time the idiots are trying to find ways to plant chemical WMDs in Iraq. Nice try Bush!
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:21 AM
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7. If there was a Dem as Prez
Every repug in congress would on the floor and reading the article word for word demanding an investigation. (With the media covering every second of it.)

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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:27 AM
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8. Respect for the USA???
It's going to take years to build it back around the globe.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:35 PM
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10. This is the stuff that has to come out
Remember their continuing line, "EVERYBODY thought there were weapons there, even Clinton." In fact, not everybody thought so, and the Bushie liars knew damn well there was nothing significant there. They're LIARS, not just incompetent.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:44 PM
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11. As the evidence of fraud continues to pile up....
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mkb Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:06 PM
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12. Progress Noted From Debate; Difficulties Remain
     Once again, this news underscores what I am trying to say
to people about learning more, digging for the truth, and
thinking about it.  It's really the best hope for good to
triumph, I think. 
     That means in my case, as I think for many of you, that
my interest in learning the facts, particularly from people
like Scott Ritter, is a good thing, and contributes to
improving society.
     There are contending versions of what happens, and
digging for facts, however difficult and imperfect, and using
our thinking about them, is I repeat, the most likely way
forward.
     The conservatives or right-wingers if you prefer, will
continue to dig for facts that support the invasion, they are
not quitting now, or ever for that matter.  The battle for the
mind is incessant and must continue, through the difficult
moments we face.  That's why the more we know, particularly
from a variety of sources, will help us make good decisions. 
It doesn;t necessarily hurt to pay attention to opposing
viewpoints, even if you're opinions are well established.  You
may change your opinions in some important ways, and will
likely be sharper in your understanding even if you hold the
same general opinion.  The future will no doubt require the
ability to adapt.
     The decisions we make must be done with care, even though
we may not be able to be certain of all that we do.
     As far as the Iraq situation is concerned, there is much
evidence from people like Scott Ritter, who even calls himself
conservative, that goes against the position of the
warmongers.  I heard him speak, and he has firsthand accounts
of the malfeasance that went into the decision to go to war. 
The upshot of his testimony is that which has been
demonstrated by the Project For A New American Century
documents (PNAC) that the right-wing power structure planned
war for a long time.  The evidence suggests they want to
remake the Middle East for political and economic reasons,
rather than to "fight terrorism".  Terrorism, as it
is defined, is the excuse, which they help cause, to conquer
valuable territory and resources.
     Try not to let the deteriorating situation stop you from
doing the best you can.  The right-wingers falsify or mislead
in many ways, including and importantly, the economy.  I have
written about my research on Stan Goff's website (June 2005,
"Economics as Pseudoscience") about the decline in
puchasing power that I think is causing stress and hardship
for many of us.  Remember to think about if and how to access
certain information on the internet.  I'm suspicious of Goff,
and I think he and others monitor and record traffic on the
net.  In June of this year he stopped my ability to contribute
for speaking my mind.  Best of Luck. 
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Mr Belmontvedere Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:40 PM
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13. a horrible reminder that the Iraq war was COMPLETELY unnecessary
There were no WMD and there was no threat to the US. This entire war, costing hundreds of billions, killing tens of thousands, was totally unnecessary.

:(
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:31 PM
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15. Hi Mr Belmontvedere!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:03 AM
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16. Well said, mkb.
:thumbsup:
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 08:59 AM
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17. if Bush lied about WMD in Iraq
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 09:00 AM by focusfan
he shouldn't have any credibailty when it comes to Iran I wish
people would wake up and realize that.the Bush administration
is liars,cheaters :thumbsdown: 
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doctor_garth Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:22 AM
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18. postwar?
we knew Bush wasn´t interested in finding out Iraq had no wmds BEFORE the illegal invasion.

And if any wmds were to found, to top it all off, they were American made! Reagan and Bush sold them to Saddamn during the 80s.

This is what makes America the most hated nation on the planet.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:25 PM
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20. Gee. Isn't this what Scott Ritter was saying?
Same for all those nice UN WMD inspectors?

Bush needs to appear in The Hague.
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