Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Rumsfeld compares war critics to Nazi appeasers

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:40 PM
Original message
Rumsfeld compares war critics to Nazi appeasers
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AP) - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Tuesday the world faces ``a new type of fascism'' and likened critics of the Bush administration's war strategy to those who tried to appease the Nazis in the 1930s.

In unusually explicit terms, Rumsfeld portrayed the administration's critics as suffering from ``moral or intellectual confusion'' about what threatens the nation's security. His remarks amounted to one of his most pointed defenses of President Bush' war policies and was among his toughest attacks on Bush's critics.

Speaking to several thousand veterans at the American Legion's national convention, Rumsfeld recited what he called the lessons of history, including the failure to confront Hitler. He quoted Winston Churchill as observing that trying to accommodate Hitler was ``a bit like feeding a crocodile, hoping it would eat you last.''
``I recount this history because once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism,'' he said.
``Can we truly afford to believe that somehow, some way, vicious extremists can be appeased?'' he asked.
``Can we truly afford to return to the destructive view that America - not the enemy - is the real source of the world's troubles?''

<snip>

``You know from experience that in every war - personally - there have been mistakes and setbacks and casualties,'' he said. ``War is a series of catastrophes that results in victory.''

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6045931,00.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:45 PM
Response to Original message
1. Goodwin's Law
(also Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is a mainstay of Internet culture, an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. It is particularly concerned with logical fallacies such as reductio ad Hitlerum, wherein an idea is unduly dismissed or rejected on ground of it being associated with persons generally considered "evil".

The law states:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:49 PM
Response to Original message
2. Just makes my head hurt!
I have several responses, but most of them are exceptionally angry ones and I think I will cool off just a bit before sending an LTTE to the newspaper. Thanks for the post!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:52 PM
Response to Original message
3. So, in order to avoid being attacked by Hitler
we all have to become good little Nazis?

Or, in the words of Frank Burns:

The way I see it, unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly, there is no possible way we can remain free.

"M*A*S*H: The Novocaine Mutiny"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 08:35 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC