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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:11 PM
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What's taking so long for us to attack Iran?
Is it merely a matter of political timing? Waiting for the most advantageous kickoff of shock and awe II? Is it because there are two big elections coming up?

bush has been threatening Syria and Iran for months now, maybe even years, what's the hold up? Will we do it by proxy through our partners in the middle east? Will it require another terror attack blamed on someone for us to finally bomb, invade, and occupy Iran?

The suspense is killing me.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:13 PM
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1. I don't understand either, except that
we may not have enough troops available.

OR are we going to attack the day before the election or the day after?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:13 PM
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2. Because they would kick our collective ass.
We don't have the military or the will or the money to do it and succeed. * has destroyed all 3 of those esesntial ingreedients for war. Not to mention, it would loose the Republics the election for sure.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:17 PM
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5. I think in THEIR perceptions, invading Iran would win them elections
in November.
I don't agree with that myself, but I think THEY think they have to start the war before November.
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The Jacobin Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:56 PM
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19. Attack, not invade
We can bomb anyone, anywhere, anytime, and no one can stop us. Count on it.

The problem is that fantastic power has been put into the hands of a moron who is too morally and intellectually confused to use it properly.
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:14 PM
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3. Yes it is merely a matter of political timing! Why do anything it
it doesn't result in political capital?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:15 PM
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4. I think it is part timing and part logistics
I think Israel was supposed to quash Hezbollah a lot more quickly than they did. Bushco was hoping it would take two weeks to root them out.
Bushco has an agreement, I believe, with Israel that we won't invade Iran UNTIL hezbollah rockets cannot be launched against Israel in retaliation.


I think they wanted to invade/attack months ago, and too many thing interrupted.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:28 PM
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12. Ah, you know so much. Crystal ball?
Psychic powers?

Thank God Israel is putting some brakes on this insane wrecking crew, then.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:03 PM
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16. I said "I think" and "I believe"
what's your problem?
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:17 PM
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6. Summer Heat
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 04:21 PM by happyslug
Basically when the US attacked Iraq it was borderline to late in the year (Remember the huge dust storms?). Basically campaigning season starts as the temperatures drops and the dust storms fade. Thus the US can attack anytime now (it is September), but you can expect no attacks from May through August. In fact Hezbollah thought Israel would attack them in Late September or October not August (and such Second attack may be on the planning boards). Now I suspect the attack on Hezbollah was part of a plan to attack Iran by first setting up a secure supply line through Lebanon and Syria. The plan did not go quite as was expected but I would not be surprised if an attack occurs in the next two months in Lebanon and then later on in Iran.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:18 PM
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7. It's only August - October will be here soon
:evilgrin:
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ryanus Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:18 PM
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8. The pretext
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 04:19 PM by ryanus
They're still working on it :)

Not close enough to the election either.

Actually, the UN deadline for Iran to halt nuke development is tonight. That might have something to do with it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:24 PM
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9. No army. No allies. No war materiel. No money to buy any, anyway.
Even just flying by and dropping a bomb takes some skilled labor. We have our pilots and skilled service crews doing grunt duty in Iraq.

Dropping a nuke takes permission from the other nuke powers. Good luck with that. (No, we don't have to and George certainly doesn't want to, but if we don't and we drop that sucker..........did I mention we have no steel or tool and die industries? We can't make our own weapons without that stuff. Our computerized gear takes Chinese chips. I'll bet China really looks forward to the drift from Iran's mushroom cloud.)

We really have to get over our post-Communism assumptions of glorious military superiority.

Right now, Iran can cream us merely by throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails.

On another point, NO NATION wants us messing with Iran's oil. We bolluxed up enough with Iraq's oil.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:25 PM
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10. We are not gong to attack Iraq.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:27 PM
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11. Needs to be a little closer to the election....maybe, October.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:30 PM
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13. after you/ve blown your wad, it takes awhile to "recharge"
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 04:32 PM by librechik
honest, honey, this almost never happens to me.
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PresidentWar Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:31 PM
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14. They don't have the stuff.
Where are they going to get the massive troop numbers needed to invade and hold a mountainous place like Iran?

Where are they going to get the massive amounts of materiale needed to pull off something like this, when troops in Iraq still can't get adequate armoring on their vehicles?

Where are they going to get the public and international support given the horrendous mess they've got us into in Iraq?

In order to attack Iran in the way they did Iraq, they would need all this. They simply don't have it.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 04:39 PM
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15. There have been a number of delays.
First they had to get Bolton appointed to the U.N., there was so much resistance to that, Bush had to do a "temporary" appointment while Congress was out.
Then they had to settle on the military plan. There was a big argument between Cheney and the generals over the use of nuclear bunker busters. Cheney finally backed down, but that delayed things quite a bit. They couldn't move ahead until they had the military on board.
Now they have to get the sanctions rejected. So first they have to bring the sanctions up for discussion and vote. Only after it gets rejected can Bush go ahead and start bombing.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:25 PM
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17. Attacking Iran now is political suicide
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 05:26 PM by Geek_Girl
The country has war fatigue with Iraq.
The shit is going to hit the fan after the november elections. :hide:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:53 PM
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18. therefore they will do it regardless
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 05:58 AM
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20. ?
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