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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:07 AM
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Harry Reid press conference on cspan1 now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:08 AM
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1. releasing a report--by the numbers the Failures of Bush war on terro
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:09 AM
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2. other Dems and Gen Clark on now
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:09 AM
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4. k
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:09 AM
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3. kick for more details
:D
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:10 AM
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6. Clark says invading Irag was a strategic BLUNDER
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:11 AM
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9. says that despite all the patriotism trumped by the WH--we are in trouble
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:48 AM
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58. How about editing your original post instead of posting a million replys?
Just a suggestion.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:11 AM
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10. Go, Clark!
That's my future husband talking! :loveya:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:35 AM
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46. Now Wait A Minute There Sis . . .
He's MY future husband, even though I already have a nice husband! If that's not a possibility, can we share?:evilgrin:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:14 PM
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62. Sure - if by "share" you mean that I get him 99% of the time
You can have him the other 1%! :evilgrin:

I loves me some Clark! :loveya:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:49 PM
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64. We'll Have A Contest On DU, Winner Takes All - Ya Interested?
Just askin'.:evilgrin:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:50 AM
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65. I sure am!
The General can hang his hat in my house anytime! :evilgrin:
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:10 AM
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5. Hey, the Dems have Red, White and Blue wallpaper.
"Real Security" and "Time To Make America Safe."
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:11 AM
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8. ugh - I hate the "message" wallpaper from either side
ugh, ugh, ugh

Have we fallen so low that we cannot listen to a speech but have to have it condensed into a few words repeated on wallpaper??
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:10 AM
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7. Watching thanks n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:12 AM
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11. praising Dems for being able to use diplomacy-make friends not enemies
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:13 AM
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12. says we need to talk to NK and iran before we drop bombs on them.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:14 AM
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13. says our military has suffered under the Bush adm.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:15 AM
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16. He smacked them into the ground
Bravo!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:16 AM
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17. now Fox will smack him
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:14 AM
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14. It's about time they surround Wes Clark, the ONLY credible
voice on National Security the Dems have. Sorry Kerry fans but a lot of people don't consider experience from 35 years ago as valid.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:18 AM
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22. Well, I agree about Clark
But not necessarily about Kerry. Many prior-service folks remain forver tapped into the military culture - myself included. I keep up with the base closings, the troop deployments, etc. I imagine Kerry does the same. Also, he has access to much information about the military including troop levels, equipment, etc.

If you think that Kerry is not credible then I guess you think that Max Cleland isn't either? Only recent military folk need speak out? That is just silly and a waste of the Dems who have served in the military.

They ALL need to speak out and back up Gen. Clark. All of them but especially the veterans.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:22 AM
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29.  You know those Kerry fans believe
Wes Clark would have a prominent position in the administration, say, Secretary of State. :shrug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:23 AM
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31. i am sayin...... wink n/t
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:29 AM
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35. If Clark is the best we have, we're in deep shit.
Luckily, he'll never get the nomination. Most Democrats see him for what he is, an opportunist.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:15 AM
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15. calling on vets to face the facts of the failed Iraq war.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:17 AM
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18. are any cable stations carrying this?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:17 AM
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19. k,
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:18 AM
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21. we need to get this new Report that they are talking about
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:18 AM
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23. k,
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:19 AM
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24. did he just call the new report The Third Way?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:20 AM
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27. Dick Durbin talking now
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:21 AM
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28. k is for kick? i was think you were saying ok to self
sorry.... carry on
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:25 AM
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32. the main Dem message is We have neglected al-quida by going to
Irag
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:28 AM
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33. if this is the Dems ne Third Way--I think they could have had a better
name for this report. The Third Way is the name for the new neoliberal gov in Britian.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:31 AM
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36. thanks. appreciate info
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:20 AM
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26. bah hahahahahah
are you talking to yourself. i am jsut updating to hear what you have to say about the conference, lol lol. dont mean to intrude you talking to self though, wink

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:29 AM
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34. i am/was writing to self.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:31 AM
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39. k..............bah hahaha n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:17 AM
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20. Is it about Irwin?
That seems to be the only news today. ;)
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:19 AM
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25. k & r nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:23 AM
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30. saying the Dem report is well documented.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:31 AM
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37. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:31 AM
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38. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:31 AM
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40. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:32 AM
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43. Harry Reid saying the House hardly ever works
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:33 AM
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44. saying that the civilan Leadership has failed (Rummy)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:34 AM
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45. Hoyer (dem maryland)--says the House has not done the people work nor
has there been an accountability from the WH as the Congress has had no oversight.
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gooderservice Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:31 AM
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41. Dems not covered
At five minutes after noon, Dems started press conference. C-Span previously announced its coverage at noon and followed through, airing it. CNN also announced their coverage at noon, but did NOT show it when it started. Instead, CNN covered the White House "Report." Also "breaking news", new transportation secretary, and McClellan resigning. MSNBC nor Faux covered the dems, either, when it first started. I got so angry, I walked away from TV, so I don't know if they picked up anything.

Will SOMEONE please tell the Dems to pick a better venue that inspires coverage the next time they have something important to say? Oh, and quit with the boring opening.

I'm so pissed. Oh, and CNN is advertising all over the place the idiot's speech coming up.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:37 AM
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47. some Rep. is talking about need to bring regional countries together to
discuss Irag as obv. we are not winning over there.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:38 AM
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49. Harry: All the speeches in the world does not change what is going on
in Irag. death death death
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:42 AM
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54. good of you to place blame on dems though everything shows
this is on the choulder of media. and repugs inevitably put things out when they know dems are going in front of press, only to get on and dems not on.
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gooderservice Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:46 AM
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57. Blame?
I blame the media. I'm saying the dems have to beat the media and the republican stronghold it has on the media. In order to win, the Dems have to inspire the media to cover them. It's an uphill battle, I know, but starting off with a bad venue and bad opening doesn't help the dems. It's constructive criticism, not blame. No one -- NO ONE wants the Dems' message to get to the public more than me.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:50 AM
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59. thank you. i have been watching this develop for years
generally i can find solutions in all things. this one has had me stymied. the media. i have heard the top dogs say things llike, we dont have dems on, they are not loud and aggressive enough (not entertaining), or dems are easy to bash, no repercussion like repugs.... or other things. they admit to it and still it is not a problem. i have watched our dems take on media and still media continue. i dont know. it is frustrating for me.
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gooderservice Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:06 PM
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60. We have to beat them at their own game
You're so right -- it is frustrating. I believe if we're going to win, we need to think like them. I've been watching closely how the repubs are getting their message out, and it seems to include being showy, short, small words -- nothing of substance, obviously. I think the Dems also need to be showy, short BUT with substance. They have plenty of substance, but most times it takes too long for them to say it.

The Dems aren't loud and aggressive enough, nor entertaining, but imagine if they were all those things but had a message, not rhetoric -- we'd have no problems. I think the repubs just over and over play on that weakness. Earlier this morning CNN reported an announcement from the White House was going to be made later in the day. 5 minutes after noon when the speech started, Rove (I assume) called CNN and reported the new transportation secretary. CNN then reported "breaking news." Maybe I'm wrong, but I think if the Dems were enticing enough, good venue with a crowd of people for their speech, showy, I believe CNN and the rest would have covered it live and then had a crawl about the "breaking news." It's not fair, I know, but we have to join the game and win the way it is -- not the way it should be.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:56 PM
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61. Hi gooderservice!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:32 AM
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42. thank you!
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:37 AM
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48. *groan* not more sports analogies
:eyes:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:40 AM
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50. Now. lets find this new Dem Report and read it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:40 AM
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52. call in time
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:41 AM
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53. Frist to talk at 1 pm and then Bush to talk at about 1:20
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:44 AM
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56. yup yup n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:43 AM
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55. i really appreciate and value rodeodamnce doing this for us
those of us that what to know and arent watching. he doesnt have to. he is kind enough to do it. so thank you
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:40 AM
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51. Those were some awesome Democrats!
Such a difference, when lawmakers actually say something instead of spewing talking points.

Good going!
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:18 PM
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63. The third way?
Oh brother :puke:
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