murtha calls for the draft-it`s about time!

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i hope this gains momentum just before the elections so the voters can see who is willing to sacrifice the voters sons and daughters for bush`s world war on religious terrorism

its possibly a very bad move. Most americans are against a draft. Its a wedge issue that could be used against democrats.

going to see is that it is the Democrats calling for a draft.

If you think that's a winning position, if the Democrativ Party thinks that's a winning position, expect the Republicans to continue to hold the House and Senate.

have rules of engagement.

I don't trust either of them.

Don

the break he needed to keep the House.

But I don't see bringing back the draft as any sort of winning message.

The whole idea is based on hypothetical assumptions, which if wrong, would boomerang big time:

that it would rouse anti-war sentiment in the country: maybe, but thousands of others would dutifully march off to war because the government says they have to go. Americans are like little children. They will do as they're told.

that you can have a draft that is fair with "no exceptions": please. The George P. Bush's of the world and Paris Hiltons will find a way to avoid serving. If they have to, they get a cushy non-combat officer commission.

that politicians would therefore be more reluctant to go to war: again, this is doubtful because they will find a way to game the system, and you'll really just be feeding the war machine all the troops it needs to go into Iran.

on two deployments, you are correct. Time for Chuckle-nuts to either put up or shut up, and for the war partisans to put their blood and kin on the fucking line of fire.

IF this nation is at war, then I guess I can sell some front beach property to the gullible in Nevada.

People who support the troops don't send them on three or four straight tours of duty, in a combat zone, because they are too cowardly to admit that if they wish to "Stay the Course" in Iraq, then they must have the fresh manpower to do so. Extended tours of duty at that.

Democratic Party support for a draft is the only way I can think of that the dems could lose my (lifelong) vote.


A call for a draft by dems would be playing right into to the neocon hand. Dumb..dumb..dumb.

Murtha's vote for the draft in 2004 shited the youth vote dramatically away from Kerry by several points--in other words it re-elected Bush.

So for God's sake, let's not have that vote again--but now I bet the GOP will bring Rangel's bill back for another October vote!

By the way, Murtha did NOT call for a Draft, he said either change the course OR reinstate the draft. That's a very different thing as he is stupidly trying to pull a strategic policitcal ploy here.



He is living in a fantasyland where he still thinks he will get fair media coverage on this.

We could lose this election now, unless we come on like gangbusters and explain how there are no more troops for the 2007 rotation--that it is the Repukes who will start a draft as soon as the November election is over and the Dems want to leave Iraq...

oh, this does not sound good at all about a draft.

:rofl:

I haven't seen the political science on that one...

a very fine line, too fine a line for this lifelong registered Dem. I've blustered about leaving the party before, but this would really do it for me.

Nothing is worth sacrificing my son for...NOTHING. Anyone who thinks they can snatch up my kid and have him die for some rich man's war can kiss my ass. They'll have to kill me first.

Murtha needs to stop and think what he's saying.

Bring em home...now.

be used against the dems. Since the thugs are supposed to be such flag-waving patriots, shouldn't they feel proud to support the war through military service. The army is stretched and probably broken. I think he's actually playing chess here and is trying to call the other side's bluff.

Just don't know if it's a good thing to do this close to such a close election.

Do you really want to see kids being chewed up by wars against Iran, Syria, and possibly North Korea? Do you really want to see this country bankrupted by more and more wars of corporate convenience?

THINK!

status quo. Poor will still be fighting all the wars.

It certainly seems like he wants them to win. The draft was a form of legalized slavery, pure and simple. It is thoroughly unconstitutional. No one wants it back, least of all the military. No one should support the draft, especially a Democrat in 2006.

The argument that the draft would show who is willing to send their children to war is pure garbage. The rich don't sell their children into the military any more then the poor do. America armed forces are volunteer based and thus people join of their own free will. No one is responsible for an enlistment but the individual who makes the commitment.

Too many kids of prominent Rethugs are vulnerable.