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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:52 PM
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Idea to screw with Government attempts to intrude on search engine privacy
The following is meant only as a satirical riff:

How about a way you can run a script on your computer that constantly submits search queries into the major search engines?

My idea, is the program would take between 1-3 terms each from between 2-4 sources Source A, Source B, and Source C, Source D, and Source E

I'd suggest the program be designed to always include at least one search term from either Source A or Source E.

It would be submit identical queries through multiple search engines at once (possibly by way of Dogpile or some other meta-search engine?) and perhaps using some kind of anonymizing system.


Source A: The Echelon Key Words
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread36584/pg1

Source B: Hollywood Celebrities

Source C: A List of Christian Fundamentalists

Source D: Random Middle-Eastern names

Source E: A Random hazardous substance
http://hazmat.dot.gov/


The program would compile queries like this:

Example 1:
Source Ax3 + Source Bx1 + Source Ex1
argus "Bubba the Love Sponge" "Gray Data" "Paris Hilton" Ethanol
http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/redir.htm?r_fcid=415&r_fcp=top&advanced=1&top=1&nde=1&qcat=web&q_all=&q_phrase=&q_any=argus+%22Bubba+the+Love+Sponge%22+%22Gray+Data%22+%22Paris+Hilton%22+Ethanol&q_not=&Submit1=Go+Fetch%21&lang=&qafterm=01&qafterd=01&qaftery=1990&qbeforem=01&qbefored=21&qbeforey=2006&domaint=&adultfilter=moderate

Example 2:
Source Ax2 + Source Dx1
nuclear Black-Ops Muhammad
http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/redir.htm?r_fcid=415&r_fcp=top&advanced=1&top=1&nde=1&qcat=web&q_all=&q_phrase=&q_any=nuclear+Black-Ops+Muhammad+&q_not=&Submit1=Go+Fetch%21&lang=&qafterm=01&qafterd=01&qaftery=1990&qbeforem=01&qbefored=21&qbeforey=2006&domaint=&adultfilter=moderate


Example 3:
Source Bx2 + Source Cx1 + Source Ex2
"Dave Chapelle" Elvis "James Dobson" cadmium arsenic
http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/redir.htm?r_fcid=415&r_fcp=top&advanced=1&top=1&nde=1&qcat=web&q_all=&q_phrase=&q_any=%22Dave+Chapelle%22+Elvis+%22James+Dobson%22+cadmium+arsenic&q_not=&Submit1=Go+Fetch%21&lang=&qafterm=01&qafterd=01&qaftery=1990&qbeforem=01&qbefored=21&qbeforey=2006&domaint=&adultfilter=moderate

The idea would be to have a few hundred (dare I dream of a few thousand!?) computers voluntarily running a script in the background 24/7 to submit hundreds of such queries each every hour.

I'm not sure if what I'm talking about is legal, which is why this is meant as only a satirical riff.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:30 PM
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1. heheee Love it!
:applause: Kinda like dangling a carrot before their probiscus(es?) Probisci?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:41 PM
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2. More like generating a stream of white noise to drown out "real" data n/t
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:43 PM
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3. it would be trivially easy for them to get around that.
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 09:43 PM by enki23
you'd just be wasting time and bandwidth.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:46 PM
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4. Any idea how to design a better way to do it?
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 09:47 PM by IanDB1
And I have no objection wasting bandwidth on AOL, MSN or Yahoo! servers after the shit they pulled to turn over our private data.

In fact, if all this did was burn their bandwidth and produced no other "useful" effect, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

That's a satirical riff, of course.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:46 PM
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5. highly illegal - amounts to a DOS attack
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:50 PM
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6. Suppose we only did it to Google, and Google CONSENTED to letting us do it
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 09:50 PM by IanDB1
Then, it wouldn't be an "attack" on their system.

They could write and distribute the program themselves as a "research tool," and let us run it for (oh, I don't know... seven days?) and then that would be the seven days worth of data they turn-over to the feds.

Again, this is a satirical riff.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:59 PM
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7. Oh you're getting wire tapped for this one
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:00 PM
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8. You think anyone here with more than 5,000 posts doesn't have a file yet?
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 10:01 PM by IanDB1
I bet every paying customer at least has a file by now.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:14 PM
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10. You'll get a special file and a direct line to Cheney's office
not being hostile, just putting it out there
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:10 AM
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11. Came with my W2 the other day..... interesting what they have
collected on me.... interesting indeed... my association with the Bin Ladens, BCCI, savings and loan scandal, involvement with Carlysle, selling my stocks before my company went bust, ignoring some August 6th thingy, conspiring to torture, and thumbing my nose at the Geneva Convention...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:05 PM
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9. That's already done
Alot of pay-per-click search engines have people who sign up to run the search engines on their web sites, but they actually hit the search engines with programs and collect money for bogus hits. Some even hire people to do these phony searches. So it's already being done and I would certainly bet sex phrases are high on the list, which means grabbing a week's worth of random searches is a really stupid way to find out anything about search and child porn.
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