Zogby: 65% of GOP still believes Saddam/9-11 connection

The Zogby America telephone poll of 1,014 likely voters conducted over Labor Day weekend finds members of the two parties diametrically opposed on key issues, while independents line up more closely to Democratic viewpoints.

In one key measurement in the survey, a 58% majority says the Iraq War has not been worth the loss of American lives, while 36% say it has. But the partisan breakdown shows a very different story. Among Republicans, 58% say the war has been worth the cost in lives, while among Democrats, just 20% hold this view—a number that improves to 28% among independents.

Also note that 65% of Republicans believe there was a connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9-11 attacks. How in the world do you reason with people who are so impervious to reality?
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http://zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=13637

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Authoritarian bent who will continue to shock their fellow human beings as in the Stanley Milgram experiment (Stanley Milgram's 37)

"""We Do What We're Told (Milgram's 37)" is a Peter Gabriel song found on his 1986 album So. The title refers to the 37 out of 40 participants who showed complete obedience in Experiment 18.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Authoritarianism pervades our culture. It's like we're a huge lynch mob, willing to go along and keep step for FEAR of being regarded as an 'outsider' or 'enemy.' As a kid, I never went to the same grade school for more than two years. I was the "new kid" and, as the only constant, kept up with my coursework. Every time I changed schools (about 7 times), I found I was out-of-step in the classes ... ahead in much of it and having some clear gaps. Once I caught up with the gaps (just a matter of weeks), I became the 'egghead.' One thing about changing schools: 'learning' becomes a lifestyle. Learning about the new neighborhood, learning new names, learning the local fashions and fads ... it was constant.

So was being picked on. I'd invariably become the target of the local mini-sociopaths. From 4th grade onwards, I had no father at home - no "my dad can beat up your dad" defense. An 'only child,' there was no big brother or other intimidating force. Perfect target. I learned. A lot.

The Milgram Experiments and the Stanford Jail Study offer keen insights to human behavior - behavior I've seen my entire life. (I don't pretend to be immune, either.)

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that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11? Their president said it loud and clear. The bipartisan senate intelligence committee said it loud and clear. Are they so thick headed that you need a two by four to pound in the message?

That's what I find shocking.

I mean, after all, it's not like the 35% didn't think so due to intelligent reasons, since that's an oxymoron within itself, so the only other explanation must be that they were actually soooooo stupid that their eensy weensy brains couldn't even handle the brainwashing programming the first time around...

The only realistic way anybody can support the war in Iraq is to rationalize a connection to 9/11, after all America is not a country to invade another without a direct threat to our very existence. To give up on that connection requires a lot of people to admit that they were wrong, never mind that their political hero duped them and continues to brainwash them. The psychic of a lot of people will not permit them to give up their security blanket, even when presented by overwhelming evidence. A lot of German people bought into the notion that they had a Jew problem. When confronted with the horror of that "solution" they still supported the notion of a Jew problem and the leader who duped them.

from the gut, just like they feel like Earth is the center of the universe and that the current batch of Repubs are good, honest people. Democracy doesn't work when people strive for retardation!

-mwalker

that Republicans are absolute idiots.

Irrefutable. It's a party of dumb shits.

"For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying".

- Hitler writing in Mein Kampf

worth the cost in lives. That third of Republicans might not like being called unpatriotic cut and runners. Just a hint.

The Professor

according to Zogby, 32 percent of the Democrats polled, and 39 percent of the Indpendents, also believe that there's a Saddam/9-11 connection. What's up with THAT?

in congress voted for the IWR, supported the war, yelled at anyone who disagreed with Commander Codpiece and are now paying the price. They have supporters. Those are their supporters.

He's a communist you know, giving out presents to poor children as well as rich ones.

That % of people couldn't be that stupid, could they?

That is the only explanation. They will not accept anything that contradicts the reality that talk radio and faux news has set up.

That's why they're g-o-p-p. greedy oily prevaricatin' pigstys(sorry little piggies, but you are sloppy).

Must be a rough life to be so stupid and greedy.