The last major power that endorsed preemptive war and torture

leftofthedial

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Mon Sep-18-06 04:54 PM
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The last major power that endorsed preemptive war and torture

was Nazi Germany.

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Avalux

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Mon Sep-18-06 04:56 PM
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1. We do appear to be going down that road.

And because people are afraid of the boogeyman, they will concede everything to this corrupt government. I hate the feeling of powerlessness.

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Kutjara

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Mon Sep-18-06 04:56 PM
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2. And their leader liked to dress up in uniforms, too. n/t

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liberalmuse

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Mon Sep-18-06 04:56 PM
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3. That would make a great bumpersticker! n/t

n/t

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Taxloss

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Mon Sep-18-06 04:57 PM
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4. I think China and the Soviet Union more recently.

But point taken.

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leftofthedial

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Mon Sep-18-06 04:58 PM
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5. Neither China nor the USSR had public policies of preemption

I don't believe.

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Taxloss

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Mon Sep-18-06 05:02 PM
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6. I suppose that depends on what one could call "public".

The leaders of both were/are not particularly given to policy-launch press conferences - and they certainly HAD "pre-emptive" policies, whether they said so or not. Korea, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Vietnam - it was all called "pre-emptive".

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leftofthedial

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Mon Sep-18-06 05:06 PM
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7. they certainly have/had predatory foreign policies

much like America always has had (first directed at this continent, then this hemisphere, then the rest of the world--we call it "capitalism")

But only Hitler and king george have made it an overt policy.

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geek tragedy

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Mon Sep-18-06 05:36 PM
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10. I disagree. Preventive war is actually hidden imperialism.

The Soviets also tried to disguise their imperialism, hilariously calling themselves anti-imperialist.

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leftofthedial

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Mon Sep-18-06 06:20 PM
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11. umm, isn't that what I said

except to add that America calls its hidden imperialism "capitalism."

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man4allcats

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Mon Sep-18-06 05:27 PM
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8. Thanks for posting this.

It is sad, but I believe true. Though I easily see the similarities, it is yet sometimes difficult for me to believe that America has come to this. God help us because He will not and should not forgive us.

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ryanus

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Mon Sep-18-06 05:33 PM
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9. And before them, Rome

You know, fighting all those "defensive" wars.

I see no pattern. /sarcasm

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Lisa

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Mon Sep-18-06 07:00 PM
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12. and they were into collective punishment, too! (n/t)

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leftofthedial

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Mon Sep-18-06 08:38 PM
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13. one difference was that the Nazis were committed

to fielding a well-equipped army (I mean except for that invasion of Russia with no winter clothes thing . . . )

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