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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:16 PM Original message |
'Adjusting' for race, sex, class, handicap, sex-orientation - Fair or Not? |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. this should be interesting |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Aw, c'mon.... |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. For the benefit of the entire community, |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Okay. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 12:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
76. Are there differences? Yes. Obviously. But there's the same imperative to |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. State sanctioned discrimination for 400 years |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Does that mean you agree with all? nt |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Means it's a divisive load of shit |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Wha?? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. How does this help??? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. "Stirring up animosities?" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Look at the thread |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Um, okay.... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I prefer we don't do right wing flame baiting n/t |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. LOL |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. Sure, why not, what do we have to fear from implementing any of |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I'm not saying there's any problem! |
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williesgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Agree w/handicap parking spaces - if we're lucky enough to be |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Obviously? |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. You've never seen it? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. I've seen my sick mother |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Wow what crawled up your ass? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. This entire thread |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I'm just going to suggest |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yes, to all. |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I think we have dramatically different interetations of #6 |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Thank you! |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. Since you asked... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Thanks for taking them one by one. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
58. Hrm. |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Wrm. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 11:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Well... |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #73 |
83. Try these |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. . |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ok I'll bite |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. On 7, it wouldn't necessicarily have to be "lowered", just different |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Well that's true |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. Ewok firefighters are the suck |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I'm for task related standards. For example if you are a firefighter |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Yeah, that I don't see as discriminatory either. Few people do |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Thanks for your answers! |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. WRT #6 (women fighter pilots) |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Yeah that was it |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. One at a time |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. To your questions |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I would argue that assaulting your wife |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Yes, we think alike!!! |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. You can't add a hate crime specification for a SO. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. It's certainly debatable... |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Well seeing how the level of DV is about the same |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Interesting, and I would need to know more. |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #71 |
89. I'm sure that LGBT domestic violence is at least as underreported |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 05:40 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. It would be handled like any other hate crime |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #80 |
87. If a white woman beats her black husband |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. I'm saying it's like any other hate crime |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. gotcha. That's what I figured you meant on 5, Hate Crimes |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. That's fair, too! |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
27. Just as long as I'm treated fairer than anyone else... |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Delete |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
38. A comment on "Color Blind" |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Thanks -- that goes to much of what I'm thinking about here... |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Thanks for clarifying the point/purpose of your original post. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I really didn't think my motives would be suspect, but... |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. It's a big board, as you know. Clarity always pays off. I've been |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
75. IMO "color blind" = continued unearned privileges for white males |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 12:23 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Hey... |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. My question for you is, "Fair" to whom? |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. And why do people say "color-blind" rather than "disadvantage-blind", |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:35 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I think you an I agree exactly. |
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ProgressiveEconomist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. And I agree with all the posts of yours i've read here, esp #12 and #38 |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. yyyyyynyyy |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Thanks, Bloo |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. IMO, what's required for a public safety job is... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. No wonder we agree on so much else!! |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
42. Yes, Yes, Maybe, Yes, Yes, Maybe, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Thanks for your thoughtful reply |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
55. Thanks for your responses -- not sure why the post raised controversy.... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
56. Here goes |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. Thanks |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
57. Is it a white man tax yet? |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Except, that requires a level of transparency |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
94. Why is it not workable? |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
60. OK, I'll bite |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Thanks, Mongo |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #68 |
86. You're right |
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MelliMel (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
63. Ok, I'll play. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. You hit on several things I've been thinking about. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
72. My Answers |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-19-06 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
74. Handicap? Can we please say disability? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Yes |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. LOLOLOL!! |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Physically challenged? (nt) |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
84. Disagree with (5)- hate crimes legislation |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
88. .. |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
91. I agree with the nine I understand |
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William Bloode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
95. Let's see. |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
97. Here's what I think |
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