I'm waiting to hear from Dem Leadership re: Kansas speech....waiting......

C'mon boys, you can find a microphone somewhere...

Where the hell is everyone? Why NO rebuttal?

Peace.

This is going to go on ALL WEEK. By the end of the week, Bush* will have the nation convinced that he only tapped Saddams phone from prison while he was talking to Osama. Dems need to be ready to rebut these fuckers at every chance. IMHO

our dems have been kicking ass, but not good enough for you, huh? i dont know if they havent said something or not. just got on. net down, but........ i do know they have been more than pulling their weight, and it doesnt behove us to be sneering at our leaders right now

so, if in an hour... two, tomorrow, they say something do you get to pop on and say "too little, too late"

Don't get me wrong, I love to complain about Dems' problems, but we need to stop OVER complaining.

For example, I can't tell you how many threads I saw saying "DNC and Reid aren't supporting Gore!!!!!" only to have them overlook Dean, Kerry, and Reid support Gore.

Stop this nonsense.

The Dems have been showing more energy in the last year under Dean/Reid/Peolosi than they showed in the four years before that with McAuliffe/Daschle/Gep.

You also have to ask if the media will cover what the dems say?

They should be ready.

bush speech. not enough? you want more. i am sure it is here or coming.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=217795&mesg_id=217927

That's why they were all over the air waves yesterday.

1/23/2006 2:15:00 PM

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=59621

Contact: Karen Finney of the Democratic National Committee, Office of Communications, 202-863-8148

WASHINGTON, Jan. 23 /U.S. Newswire/ -- President Bush today began a three-day public relations campaign aimed at selling his domestic spying program to the American people with a speech at Kansas State University. President Bush's new effort to convince the American people that he did not break the law in authorizing the government to spy on American citizens follows Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove's comments last Friday criticizing Democrats for asking questions about the program. Rove failed to mention the growing chorus of criticism from within the Republican Party.

The following is a DNC Research document detailing the growing chorus of Republicans and conservatives who have expressed concern about the President's possibly illegal domestic spying program.

20 CONSERVATIVES QUESTIONING BUSH'S SPYING PROGRAM: http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=59621

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket but isn't there some point at which the Dems try to get their own agency? Well, in any case, good for those twenty.

that's the basis for this response at this time. It's not like we haven't responded before this, or are not going to respond in the future.

January 6, 2006

DNC Releases Video Titled Bush & Nixon

160,000 Americans Call on the Bush White House to Tell the Truth

News from the DNC:

Washington, DC -- As President Bush and Vice President Cheney continue their push to expand the Patriot Act, they must answer questions about the Administrations secret domestic spying program and the abuse of executive power. Today, the Democratic National Committee will send to our email list a video titled Bush & Nixon, which reminds Americans of the abuses of power that can result from an above-the-law mentality.

Also, DNC General Counsel Joseph Sandler yesterday delivered a Freedom of Information Act request signed by DNC Chairman Howard Dean and more than 160,000 Americans calling on the Justice Department to release documents that describe the legal justification for spying on Americans without a court order. By refusing to get a court order, the Bush Administration bypassed special Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act courts set up to review such intelligence-gathering operations.


On Monday, FISA judges will be briefed about this program by Bush Administration officials, after having asked for the same information that the DNC is requesting: the legal rationale for blatantly disregarding the laws that protect our civil liberties. The FISA court judges and the DNC arent the only ones skeptical of the Bush Administrations actions. Last weekend, it was also revealed that John Ashcrofts deputy, as acting Attorney General, refused to recertify the program after expressing doubts about its legality.

Dean called the Bush Administrations program to spy on Americans citizens without a court order the worst abuse of Presidential power since Richard Nixons own wiretapping program:

I am proud that more than 160,000 Americans signed our request for the Bush Administration to explain how and why it enacted a possibly illegal secret domestic spying program. The President needs to explain to the American people his legal justification for going around our laws and sidestepping our courts that are set up to protect our country and our liberty. The actions by this White House are the worst abuses of power since the Nixon Administration.

TRANSCRIPT

President Bush: I swear to defend and protect?

Former Chief Justice Rehnquist: The Constitution of the United States?

Bush: The Constitution of the United States?

Rehnquist: So help me God?

Bush: So help me God?

Text: 4/20/04

Bush: Anytime you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order? constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.

Text: Really?

Text: The Washington Post, "Bush Authorized Domestic Spying; Post-9/11 Bypassed Special Court," 12/16/05

Text: The New York Times, Bush Lets U.S. Spy on Callers without Courts, 12/16/05

Bush: I can fully understand why members of Congress are expressing concerns about civil liberties. I know that.

Bush: "Do I have the legal authority to do this? ... And the answer is: absolutely." - George W. Bush, 2005

Former President Richard Nixon: When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal. Richard Nixon, 1977

Text: America Deserves the Truth?

podcast:
http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v001/democratic1.download.akamai.com/8082/audio/20060110_podcast3.mp3

WMV
http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v001/democratic1.download.akamai.com/8082/video/ads/20060106_wiretap.wmv

Too mad for words. :banghead: