I can't believe the double standard here

Tyo

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:22 AM
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I can't believe the double standard here

Why is it that Democratic predators are predators, while Republican predators are poor misguided romantics (Ben Stein)? And what about Drudge saying that it was the boys, who he refers to as "monsters" who were guilty of seducing poor romantic old Sen. Foley? I mean WTF, have these people no decency? :grr:

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ccpup

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:23 AM
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1. No, they don't. n/t

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ixion

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:23 AM
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2. uh, no, they don't

republicans should be treated like what they really are at their core: emotionally disturbed individuals with a third-grade mentality.

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NYCGirl

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:24 AM
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3. Actually, Drudge called them "beasts", according to Media Matters:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200610020015

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Tyo

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:26 AM
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10. Thanks, you're right, it was "beasts" n/t

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ShortnFiery

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:24 AM
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4. No, they have no shame either :( eom

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valerief

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:25 AM
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5. Blame the victim. Blame the victim. Now you know how women

rape victims feel.

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ShortnFiery

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:25 AM
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7. "the kid was having fun with this"

Yeah, she wanted it! Her dress and eyes told me so. :puke:

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valerief

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:30 AM
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14. It's amazing. It doesn't matter what the kid was doing. It only matters

what the adult *in power* was doing. How can they skirt that blatant fact?

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ShortnFiery

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:49 AM
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28. Because they are so drunk on their own power ...

Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 10:49 AM by ShortnFiery

Best way to sum it up was "Tricky Dick" saying once:

"Well, when the President does it, it's legal." :wow: :puke:

They honestly believe (The Executive Branch and The Republican Congress) that they are Above the Law.

If the M$M does not at least do an *half-assed honest job* for the next few weeks OR if there's massive election fraud, they may be correct, i.e., The Republican Leadership is Above the Law. :scared:

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valerief

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Tue Oct-03-06 11:18 AM
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32. Maybe some nice country will invade us and give us back democracy. nt

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ShortnFiery

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Tue Oct-03-06 11:30 AM
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34. Hey! They've Unionized Walmart in China! LOL n/t

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valerief

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Tue Oct-03-06 11:47 AM
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36. That's the country I was thinking of! nt

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treestar

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:25 AM
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6. And he probably didn't blame that temptress Monica

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TornadoTN

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:26 AM
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8. Somehow, there is a disconnect with them

The Clenis, in a mutual affair with a 22 year old intern = NOT OK, BAD FOR THE MORAL FABRIC OF OUR NATION

Foley's Foley, trolling for sex with underage interns = OK, HE IS A MISUNDERSTOOD ROMANTIC, IT WAS THE LITTLE BEAST PAGES THAT SEDUCED!

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npincus

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:26 AM
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9. Monica wasn't young enough for them!

Now, had she been 15 or 16, they'd have approved.

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Warren DeMontague

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:28 AM
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11. They're flailing. Desperately.

It's either that, or change the subject.

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SmokingJacket

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:29 AM
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12. Eh, they're just panicking!

Reminds me of my son when he gets in trouble. "I didn't do it! I didn't mean to! He made me do it! Why do you always pick on me? It's not fair!" -- all in one breath!

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niyad

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:30 AM
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13. why are you shocked? the double standard you mention has been

glaringly obvious in everything they have ever done. the only difference now is that its blatancy is actually visible to at least some of the headblind sheeples.

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Buzz Clik

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:35 AM
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21. Tyo was referring to a double standard at DU. Are you?

Sorry, but I haven't seen it.

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Tyo

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:48 AM
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26. No, I was talking about them not about us

But I understand the confusion. I guess what surprised me about this was not that there is a double standard. I mean that's hardly news. But that they are being so incredibly shrill and blatant about displaying it. Seems like usually the Freeper machine produces slightly more sophisticated shit.

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Buzz Clik

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:50 AM
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29. Okay, my error. I agree with you all the way. But one question:

Ben Stein? He has some nasty incident in his past? I did a quick google but found nothing. Can you give me a clue about this? (Pardon my ignorance)

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Tyo

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Tue Oct-03-06 11:11 AM
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31. Ben Stein was the commentator

I'm not communicating well today, sorry :crazy: More coffee!

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Buzz Clik

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Tue Oct-03-06 11:18 AM
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33. LOL! I figured out the Stein connection moments ago.

Thanks for your patience.

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stopbush

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:30 AM
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15. And torture isn't torture when the USA does it.

Yep. No decency.

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Double T

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:30 AM
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16. MSM rethug pundits are attempting to provide cover for the.........

incompetent, pedophile supporting rethug leadership. Pathetic.

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tabasco

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:31 AM
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17. We are seeing a heinous example of what the greed party will do

to stay in power. They will even sacrifice children to maintain control of the US governement - AKA the goose that lays golden eggs. They will not give up that goose easily! The super-rich are looting our Treasury and they will go to any lengths to stay in power - even cover up and allow child abuse!

When will the 39% open their eyes and see the utter corruption of the republican party?

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DeeDeeNY

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:31 AM
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18. Not to mention how they described Clinton

as being so morally corrupt as opposed to Henry Hyde,
who had "youthful indiscretions".

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MindPilot

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:32 AM
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19. IIRC there was a bishop who said a very similar thing about

a pedophile priest. Those hot young alter boys seduced the poor defenseless father.

Denial and projection; it's what the dysfunctional do best.

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Buzz Clik

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:34 AM
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20. Someone around here is giving Foley a pass for his predatory behavior?

Care to get specific?

I've seen some disagreement about whether or not Foley is a pedophile (is a 16-year-old a child?), but I have not seen a case of a DUer defending Foley.

And, please, don't even try to infer the Matt Drudge somehow represents even extreme thinking here at DU.

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MindPilot

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:41 AM
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23. The OP is referring to the "Clinton-did-it-too" double standard

Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 10:47 AM by MindPilot

Somehow equating the consensual sex between two adults with sexually stalking an underage teen. Both were wrong and certainly constituted sexual harassment in the workplace and an abuse of power, but they are not equivalent by any stretch.

At least that's my take on it.

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Pacifist Patriot

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:43 AM
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24. Not a double standard here....the other crowd.

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Buzz Clik

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:48 AM
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27. I certainly hope that was the point. I definitely agree. n/t

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Tyo

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:53 AM
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30. Definitely the other crowd.

Sorry guys and gals, never occurred to me that people might think I was referring to DUers.
I suppose we have our double standards too, but this ain't one of them

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Libby2

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:39 AM
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22. No. None.

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Liberal Dose

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Tue Oct-03-06 10:46 AM
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25. "The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children."

"The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

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Marr

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Tue Oct-03-06 11:41 AM
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35. I'll tell you exactly what it is.

Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 11:45 AM by Marr

It's the same thing that allows Reagan fans to rant about the evils of Saddam Hussein, and even cite his laundry list of crimes, while ignoring the fact that he committed those crimes with US assistance and approval. It's what Orwell described as doublethink- "the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them". It's the mark of party loyalists, zealots, and dullards.

People like Ben Stein are just propagandists, of course- and propagandists are just eloquent dullards.

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