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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:11 PM Original message |
With all the "Why do men..." threads lately, I would like some answers |
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TAPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Let me guess... |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Yup |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think you answered your own question |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. There will always be such a problem |
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pauliedangerously (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. This brings up one of my all time favorite quotes |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
103. There's no way it can't affect the mind and personality. |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. yah sure, I can tell you want a serious discussion... |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Those were just suggestions |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. yeah...that pretty much... |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I think he was just frustrated. I don't think he meant anything by that. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I was attempting to make a point |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. I doubt you had any desire to seriously respond... |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. If you thought that was "outraged"... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. I didn't think it was outraged, hence the "fake" word in there. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. So basically you were being insulting... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. No there was more to it. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. your fingers are typing... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. You were done long before post 80. |
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grizmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. just go for the final solution |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
52. Dude, get a life |
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grizmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
79. What? you mean I shouldn't be lumped in with every other white male |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. Only men can understand how being raised in a society |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Well, I am interested |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I find the difference in your perception... |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I can guarantee you my perception would be different |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. All the women you've met think most men are "bad" guys? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. It is a pretty sad view of the world... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I think in that case the perception isn't representing reality. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Gee thanks... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Pitiful straw argument. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. It's not a grudge against humanity... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Most men aren't good guys means |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Most humans aren't good... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. That's a very sad view of the world. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. No... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Then where does it come from? nt |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Where does what... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Your view of the world that most men aren't good guys. nt |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. How do I explain to you... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
101. Thanks for your effort. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. It isn't just "a" culture... |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
75. most of the men I know are good, caring guys |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Then your question was asked and answered |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. good serious post. am awaiting johnnie for his reply. nt |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Me too. eom |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Ok, I'll try |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. And the second half? |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. I'll repost what I said in my OP |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
83. So you don't have any answers |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
96. Yes, thank you for moving on |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. Again with the men only frame. |
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cenacle (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. he sounds serious enough to me... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. His questions weren't out of line. Your's is. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. You are replying to a poster who never asked the question you infer |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. Nice try dodging. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
88. You're full of shit and you know it. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
98. Then stop pulling the weed from the stalk. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
105. That's a far stronger claim than it looks at first glance |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. Well, for me, personally. |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. Nice rant. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
12. Any deviation from the norm is newsworthy |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
15. Society is the problem. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. But the problem is world-wide |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. can we maybe actually blame |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Agriculture |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Agriculture and the rise of the city-state... |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Factually incorrect |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. And exactly how is eight or ten thousand years ago 'nowadays'? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. But the rate of death was much higher back then |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Evidence please? nt |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. see #68 below |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
87. You manage to completely miss my main point, anyway... |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. And you missed mine |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. Until you put them next to each other. ;) |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #95 |
104. Which really has nothing whatever to do with anything I was saying. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. I don't think so. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Noble savage myth |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. Yes, that myth needs to be put to rest, however |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. 8-33% rate is for similar cultures, worldwide |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Civilization isn't too civilized. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. The idea of civilization isn't bad, but our particular execution of it |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Not agriculture, totalitarian agriculture. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. To be truthful, society (read civilization) is the answer |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
18. Don't let the male-bashers get you down, that's my suggestion. |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. It's a question of cultural evolution v. genetics. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
27. listen to me johnnie. i am as much on the men side as the woman |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. "how is that" |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
29. Interestingly enough, most of us are raised by women... |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. I agree with your post. There is an underlying problem... |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. Good post |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
76. Show me your evidence... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
34. the problem of the persecuted white male....it breaks my heart on |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Ahhh... racist misandry |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. I appreciate the post and I'll try to answer honestly |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
62. are you truly outraged? seriously, I'm curious nt |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Outraged? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Not to me, you don't. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. OK maybe not the right word. Are you truly fed up with white male bashing? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
85. It looks to me like the OP was asking for solutions. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Actually, I believe he was looking for answers |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #94 |
106. Answers, solutions, what's the difference? |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
92. Honestly, no I don't |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
69. Sexual assaults have been HALVED since 1993! |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
93. With all ONE of those threads? |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Huh? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Yesterday's male bashing thread didn't happen. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Yeah, I was gonna say.. |
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The empressof all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-03-06 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
108. Locking |
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