BREAKING - Man with a gun at Woodrow Wilson Elementary in Salt Lake City

helderheid

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:36 PM
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BREAKING - Man with a gun at Woodrow Wilson Elementary in Salt Lake City

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ck4829

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:36 PM
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1. Another one?!

What's up with this country?

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John Gauger

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:42 PM
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17. Isn't this the fourth school shooting in one month?

Holy fucking shit. How does this shit happen?

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kurth

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:36 PM
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2. White House Conference will take care of that

The President has already penciled that in.

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meegbear

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:48 PM
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34. Just like when they scrapped the plans to handle terrorism ...

in early 2001 and promised to set up a task force on in in the fall.

GOD BLESS GEORGE W. BUSH!!

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Straight Shooter

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:37 PM
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3. oh for God's sake, what is going on in America!

:banghead:

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gkhouston

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:38 PM
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8. the damned crazies want their 15 minutes

and at the rate these shootings are happening, that's about all they'll get. x(

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tinfoilinfor2005

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:53 PM
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39. I agree with your 15 min theory.

Everytime something like this happens, the msm blows up a picture of the scumbag, and repeats the story with the life size picture every two minutes for days, sometimes weeks. Some of these sickos just love the glory. Unless they are "at large" I wouldn't give them two cents worth of publicity. Not their name, not their picture... nada.

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SoCalDem

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:41 PM
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16. Crowded rat syndrome

and extreme stress across the land..

If too many lab rats are crowded into the same small space, they will turn on each other and do vile things..

People everywhere are under immeasurable stresses these days.. (I am NOT condoning the actions that "some" people choose to take, but I think in the last decade, a tipping point was reached and lots of people have realized that their lives are shit..there is no help..or if there is help, it's inaccessible for most of them.

People have lost hope and hopeless people do crazy things..

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brokensymmetry

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:19 PM
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59. My thoughts exactly.

Thanks for saying it better than I could.

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TAPat

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:37 PM
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4. Link???

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helderheid

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:38 PM
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6. I just watched in on my local news:

http://kutv.com/

They don't have it on the site yet

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wryter2000

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:37 PM
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5. Source?

CNN?

This has to stop!

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newspeak

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:40 PM
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14. see here, we are having a problem

Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 01:40 PM by newspeak

and I'm sure this administration is ready to give you the scary solution. Like I said before, the nuts are coming out of the woodwork-because with this nutty administration, nuts are acceptable, doncha know?

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helderheid

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:45 PM
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29. HERE'S THE LINK:

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_276143513.html

Man Points Gun At Elementary School Employees

South Salt Lake police are looking for a man who waved a gun at employees at a Granite School District elementary school Tuesday.

Employees at Woodrow Wilson Elementary School told police they saw a Hispanic man point a gun at them. The man was not on school property at the time.

Police say the man got on a UTA bus and got away southbound on State Street.

Police are stopping busses in the area searching for the suspect who is described as a 5' 5" to 6' tall Hispanic male. He has short black hair and was wearing blue jeans and a red shirt.

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jeffrey_X

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:24 PM
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61. "saw a Hispanic man"

In the previous 3 shootings the past 3 weeks. The shooters were NEVER identified ONCE as being white.

:shrug:

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helderheid

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:36 PM
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64. I think because he's a fugitive and that can be used to identify him

But I know what you're sayin'

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Zynx

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:38 PM
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7. Violent crime is really getting out of control.

The last two years it is up sharply and the most disturbing part about it is the focus on children.

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Subdivisions

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:39 PM
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10. Despair and impending despair. Hopelessness. Depression. eom

Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 01:39 PM by Texas Explorer

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BattyDem

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:38 PM
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9. WTF is going on???

:wow:

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enigma000

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:39 PM
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11. It's going to be a bad school year

The copy-cats are out in force. The Montreal shooting started all this..........

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C_U_L8R

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:39 PM
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12. When did they let the mad republicans loose?

Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 01:39 PM by C_U_L8R

All the Bush-Loivin Gun-totin Nut-Jobs
seem to be cracking all at once.
Did someone say the magic word??

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Dhalgren

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:43 PM
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21. You know, a friend of mine said yesterday that it was like

a "Manchurian Candidate" scenario. I thought he was being dramatic, but ...

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yellowcanine

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:39 PM
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13. This shit is going to keep up until fat Denny Hastert resigns. I am sure

that is what the problem is. How can we expect the citizens to behave properly when the Speaker of the House doesn't do the right thing?

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BattyDem

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:44 PM
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26. Unfortunately, it's not just Hastert

Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 01:45 PM by BattyDem

It's the entire GOP-controlled government. They have been dehumanizing various groups of people for the last 5 years. Muslims, women, homosexuals, Iraqis ... it's a long list.

When the people in charge say it's perfectly fine to kill, torture and degrade another human being - no matter what the reason - the nuts are going to come out in full force. :-(

edited: typo :blush:

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yellowcanine

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:51 PM
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38. Actually I was being sarcastic. But you may have something there.

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BattyDem

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:56 PM
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43. Oh sorry .. didn't recognize the sarcasm

These days, it's so hard to distinguish between reality and "The Onion" ... you know what I mean? :crazy:

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yellowcanine

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:02 PM
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47. It has been a surreal couple of days, that's for sure.

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Ron Green

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:44 PM
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27. I'm goin' with you on this.

:thumbsup:

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QuestionAll...

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:41 PM
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15. !

omg.
I'm having trouble breathing. this is so crazy...

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katsy

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:43 PM
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18. No. No not another school.

Please not one more child.

How many of these murderers are on antidepressants - just curious.

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KyndCulture

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:44 PM
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24. makes you wonder how many are cracking up

under the pressure of this no job economy and have reached the end of their rope.

The country is going insane.

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katsy

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:09 PM
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51. But we're bringing democracy to Iraq.

What a joke.

Wonder is this guy was on any prescription drugs.

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helderheid

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:43 PM
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19. UPDATE - apparently the guy waved a gun at school employees from

a sidewalk and then ran away on a south bound city bus. PHEW.

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Straight Shooter

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:54 PM
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40. Thank you. I can let my breath out now.

I was just about at the point where I felt like running into the street, screaming.

I just couldn't bear a repeat of those poor little girls in Pennsylvania. :cry:

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emcguffie

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:43 PM
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20. Am I the only really suspicious tin hat-wearer?

It is really odd, isn't it? And what does it conribute to?

Might it encourage some folks to want more law and order? To the point that they would look forward to a much more controlled society?

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HughBeaumont

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:47 PM
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33. V for Vendetta.

Art imitating life.

Or is it the other way around?

Step #1. Make them realize WHY THEY NEED US!

I mean, you gotta admit the similarities and time between these shootings are far too close anymore.

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emcguffie

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Wed Oct-04-06 10:11 PM
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65. I've been thinking about Projects Artichoke and Bluebird --

-- sorry, I forget the others. But it has been documented that we have had, and probably still have a "control" program, having to do with our thinking processes. People are supposedly programmed, with triggers, that make them do things and commit suicide.

I hate to even allow the possibility. But life has just gotten weirder and weirder and weirder, to the point that the nonsensical is all that makes sense.
..
And so, I cannot help but wonder.

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Kadie

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:44 PM
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22. Oh No!

What is going on?

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louis-t

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:44 PM
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23. Who will be the first nut-job to suggest arming the children?

Or the teachers? I say, by tomorrow, 6 pm eastern, it will be suggested.

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TheLeftyMom

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:44 PM
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25. Re: violent crime stats

Didn't they drop WAY down during Clinton's administration? I'd be interested to see a chart graphing the two administration's efforts on crime.

I sure don't remember violence against innocent children in their schools being quite so rampant back in the day.

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FormerDem06

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:14 PM
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55. I'd like to see the same statistics with two comparisons....

The first graphed with Job OutSourcing numbers, the second with illegal immigrant statistics.

You cannot take away 2 million good jobs, and then flood the market with cheap labor and expect people not to lose their minds. Finding a job for someone not willing to work 70 hours a week for dirt cheap has got to be hard.

I also think that this is also what happens when latch-key kids grow up on violent video games. It is really, really sad.

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HughBeaumont

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:45 PM
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28. Didn't school shootings happen like once every 2-3 years?

Now they happen every 2-3 days, it appears.

It's kind of bizarre, bordering on "too unusual to be coincidence".

Guess I'm going to have to live in an America where I'll be waiting for a phone call from the Avon Lake Police saying my kid's school was just invaded by a gun-wielding psychodot and the SWAT team's on it.

Jesus Christ.

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onenote

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:08 PM
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50. No. Sadly, school shootings also occurred frequently in the past

Look at March/April 1998, for example:

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/crime/school_violence/school_shootings.html

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sandnsea

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:45 PM
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30. Killing the evildoers

That's the American way.

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Clark2008

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:45 PM
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31. Is he going to kill only girls?

This is too much!

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onenote

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:18 PM
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58. apparently he wasn't even on school property

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helderheid

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:47 PM
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32. Kids saw him loading the gun. He told them "Don't tell any adults"

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onenote

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:49 PM
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35. Could we get some facts here?

Awful lot of assumptions being made here. Posts referring to this as school shooting,etc. So far, whatever it was, it doesn't seem to have been signficant enough to warrant an update on any of the websites of any of the Salt Lake City newspapers or television stations.

Why don't we try getting the facts before we get hysterical?

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helderheid

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:50 PM
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37. Post 29

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onenote

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:55 PM
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42. thanks -- seems to confirm that the reaction of some was over the top

Pointed a gun a school employees, not on school property.

Not exactly a copycat of the school shootings.

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KyndCulture

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:00 PM
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46. Well if you can't smoke a cigarette 500 feet from a school

I should think waving a gun would get you a felony.

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onenote

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:04 PM
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48. agreed

but a lot of the posts here were treating this as being a case akin to the one that occurred yesterday in PA or last week in Colorado...the facts don't bear out that assumption,

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benEzra

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:11 PM
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54. Possession of a gun within 1000 feet of a school is a felony (n/t)

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helderheid

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:35 PM
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63. Kids saw him loading the gun. He told them "Don't tell any adults"

I don't think it's over reaction.

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madmom

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:50 PM
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36. well the repugs can't say there have been no terrorist attacks while

they were in charge, this is domestic terrorism at it's worst(targeting kids)!:mad:

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KingFlorez

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:54 PM
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41. What is happening?!

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Beelzebud

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:56 PM
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44. Watch Bowling For Columbine. It's not the guns, it's the leadership.

The whole point of Bowling was that when we have poor leadership, we have more violence.

We have made torture, war, and killing GOOD.

It's not a suprise that we now have people totally snapping. They think it's GOOD.

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bdamomma

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Tue Oct-03-06 01:59 PM
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45. this is just sick

now they are making our kids the target of their pent up frustrations and hostility.

schools are going to be in lockdown. now

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Imagevision

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:05 PM
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49. CNN is reporting another one in Oklahoma City OK.

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KyndCulture

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:09 PM
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52. This appears to be another lockdown.

Like in Nevada.

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survivor999

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:10 PM
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53. For those who forgot basic stats...

There are several hundred million people in the US alone. The probability that any act you can think of is committed by someone, somewhere, is not negligible. When the media wants to create/exploit bias the just focus on whatever fashionable act, reporting each case, giving the false impression of a sudden epidemics.
An alligator eats somebody's leg? Sure enough, there is a sudden proliferation of murderous alligators around the country; all because the media starts reporting selectively to exploit the fact that public attention is focused on that.

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buddysmellgood

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:16 PM
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56. I'll take my chance with Islamic fundamentalist. We have to do something

about domestic terrorists.

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nini

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:17 PM
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57. maybe this is a way to get those vouchers and home schooling

in place?

what a freaking nightmare society has become.

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bullwinkle428

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:24 PM
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60. Countdown to the first Repuke talking head to blame the kids for

being taken hostage. Sound crazy? Drudge already tried pulling that crap!

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Initech

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Tue Oct-03-06 02:32 PM
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62. This is some scary shit, four in one week.

:scared:

And I'm not even in high school anymore...

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