Foley is not a Pedophile... he is a Pederast...

But in the end I'm startin to not really care what people call him anymore. He's just simply a sick cowardly fuck who needs to throw out 20 different excuses for his sick ass behavior. Then it's even sicker how his leadership and peers did fucking nothing while this sick fuck continued to run rampant.

I agree with your synopsis completely. But in the end, I figure people can call him whatever they want, as long as they recognize and are aware that he's one sick fuck.

states it's a crime....but thanks for the Definitions.

From the dictionary:


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pe‧do‧phil‧i‧a  /ˌpidəˈfɪliə/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun Psychiatry. sexual desire in an adult for a child.



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American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source ped·o·phil·i·a (pd-fl-, pd-) Pronunciation Key
n.
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.

pedo·phili·ac (-k) adj. & n.

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pedophilia

n : sexual activity of an adult with a child

Children and young adolescents near the average age of puberty are sometimes referred to as peripubescent in medical literature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty

peri - from Greek meaning around or about

We're using Greek and Latin roots now.

Peri means around, ergo (!) peripubescent means "around puberty."

I was certainly in the throws of puberty when I was 15, and so are/were other 15 year old boys. So Foley fits the wikipedia definition of "pedophile."

Now lets look at the literal meanings:

"ped" means "child." For example, 15 year olds go to pediatricians.

"philia" means "love." Philadelphia is the City of Brotherly Love. Now in this context I think we can all agree it means "sex." So that fits with the dictionary definitions I quoted earlier and would also mean that Foley is literally a pedophile.

Unless somebody wants to argue that 15 year old children are not really children.

now "erast" means "lover."

So there's no real, meaningful difference between "pedophile" and "pederast."

You've just exchanged one root for another synonymous one.

adolescent
A young person who has undergone puberty but who has not reached full maturity; a teenager.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=adolescent

child
A person between birth and puberty.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=child

So both of these definitions would define children of the same age. The difference seems to me to be whether you accept adult-teen relationships as normal or abnormal, moral or immoral. I don't think relationships between 50 year olds and teen-agers are normal at all, and when it's a pattern that's gone on for years, it's a "philia", or mental/emotional disorder.

pedophilia. Mark Foley.

In Ohio, legally, yes... and I agree with that. However, a 17 year old is not biologically or mentally the same as a 10 year old. This is why he's a pederast and not a pedophile.

It seems you're 'labeling' Foley as a pederast when the "ped" refers to the same definition of child as the "ped" in pedophile refers to. Whichever "ped" one wants to use, it has to refer to both definitions. You can't have "ped" refer to 10 year olds in one definition and not the other.

The difference in the definitions is based on the suffix. In pederast, it's sex specifically with a boy, especially a minor. Pedophilia is sex with any child. The ages that either pertain to are defined by culture and law. In ours, generally, old men preying on teen-agers is perverted and usually a crime.

and I want to know if a freedom of information act can find out who was on the plane wiyh Limpballs when he got busted. I don't remember hearing that.

Strictly speaking, this definition would include many adolescents and prepubescents, for whom such an interest might be normal; thus, some experts add the criterion that the interest be toward children at least five years younger than the subject. However, according to some experts, a diagnosis of pedophilia can also be appropriate for a post-pubescent adolescent.<4> See entry for sexologist Dr. John Money.

still smells like shit. Most Americans think a pedophile is a bicycle enthusiast. We have to make it nice and easy for our dumbed-down citizens.