You can give your freeper parent, friend, or relative ONE BOOK

to help them see the light. Which do you give them?

Thanks for your help. My mother is depressing the hell out of me.

assuming they are willing to read it and understand it.

but the idea is not to alientate them and piss them off.

Thanks, though. :rofl:

instead. He turned my mother into a democratic supporter very quickly.

I'd have to figure out how to get that to her. She works a lot and doesn't have cable.

Let em see what their fearless leader read while America was being attacked!

vote republican.

My mom thinks everything in Iraq is okay because "it's in the Bible." :eyes:

USA

Have her point it out and explain it. Maybe you could do a little debunking.

The latest John Dean book might let in a little sunlight:
http://www.amazon.com/Conservatives-Without-Conscience-John-Dean/dp/0670037745/sr=8-1/qid=1159964141/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4601285-6696055?ie=UTF8&s=books

She has no idea. I could ask and get back "...um..." She's only repeating things other people say.

A friend suggested "Well, educate her then!"

I replied that she may well be beyond hope, and that I'd have to start with the ABC's in that case.

It's not just politics, current events... but ignorance in general. I think she might be a lost cause, but I want to try.

Get the Dean book anyway, even if you just read it yourself.

for me to read, as well. Thanks :hi:

and see if she can still justify bush's b.s.

But I think she would just bend the words to suit her, especially if someone who seems smart to her tells her to.

in the first place.

The freepers I know don't read. They get their "news" by listening to Limbuagh, Hannity, etc. not by doing research themselves.

Paul O'Neill
John Dean
Joseph Wilson
Richard Clarke <-- this one might be the best

She'll never believe a Michael Moore or Al Franken book, as good as they might be.

lmao

are good. I have a friend who gave his rightwing grandad one of Al Franken's books for Christmas. For my friend's next birthday, he received the Al Franken book back, all wrapped like a birthday gift from his grandad LOL. Moore or Franken or Ivins etc.--too much of a stretch.

It is just so impressive, as he is whenever he speaks about terrorism. He knows his stuff. His account as anti-terrorism chief is from firsthand experience and knowledge. By contrast, your mother will see what frauds and incompetents the Bush circus performers are!

It's timely, it's in better taste than "Deciding to Put Your Parent in a Home"...

Gotta laugh to avoid crying.

Better than a mirror.

Seriously.I tell people to compare Mien Khampf and PNAC all the time.ESpecially if they happen to be Jewish.

Logic. That's the whole problem. And why "faith" is an insidious player in this whole mess.

www.richarddawkins.net

I say State of Denial only because she might read it b/c it is Woodward. It makes me sick that Bobby is making money off of things he should have put in the paper.

Must reading.

1. "The Family"--The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty," by Kitty Kelley --especially if your mom gets into family backgrounds. It's very readable, but has a lot of political info in between the juicy stuff. None of what she says has ever been proven false.

2. A book on the same theme but less gossipy is "American Dynasty--Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush" --by Kevin Phillips.
--Written by a REPUBLICAN strategist, this details the financial and social empire built by the Bushes at our expense--special interests, arms dealing, cronyism, subversion of democratic principles, Halliburton, election manipulation in Florida, harnessing of the Religious Right. Very readable.

I think if you can get people to start to see the spectacular level of Repug corruption over the decade--they start to disassociate from the party (unless they themselves gravitate toward dishonesty & corruption, in which case they tend to be silently supportive).

A Handmaid's Tale

Democracy for the Few by Michael Parenti. Second choice For Reasons of State by Chomsky.

I wrote in the front of it "Please read this before you vote again".

I also gave him a gift book of letters Einstein wrote to children. He really liked both, and laughed at what I wrote in the other book.

I haven't seen it, but the new "Iraq for Sale" might be good.
Also, I have heard "Armed Madhouse" by Greg Palast--a DVD as well as a book--is excellent.

I think I will inundate her with things that are easier to absorb faster than a huge stack of books. Thanks!!!

then phone HS and say that you suspect an enemy combattant. A little waterboarding will turn them into a convinced democrat.

It's an in depth look at the rise of the military/industrial machine, and how Eisenhower tried to warn us.

Confessions of a Former Dittohead by Jim Derych.



It's not too expensive, very readable, not too long and written in a way that even right-wingers can understand.

I plan to give copies to various family members at Christmas.

American Theoracy; Fooled Again and a subscription to Newsweek (better than (dumb)Faux and Limbaugh-which she listens to). Her response is we have to respect the office of the president. I have given up-can't discuss world events with her. :(

a very good book from a former RW literary hit-man who turned after he came out of the closet; i.e., he was booted by the RW establishment. He helped wreck Anita Hill's credibility in the press ("a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty...") during the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings.


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Written by a conservative economic writer. Illustrates in plain language how their Reaganite, pro-rich, pro-corporate, anti-middle class government enables the ridiculously wealthy and screws the poor twenty-fold. Oh yeah, the Repubs control all three branches, don't they?

The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America

Book Description
In one compact volume, the full texts of both the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE and the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA with all ratified twenty-seven amendments to the Constitution are side by side--along with another of America's seminal documents, Thomas Jefferson's VIRGINIA STATUTE ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, an additional world-changing document that codified for the first time that one cannot be required by law to support or prefer any belief or be punished for those one does profess--and the basis for what we have come to know as the "wall of separation" between church and state. Who we are and what we are free to be as citizens of the United States of America is contained between these covers. Enhanced by an index and suggestions for further reading, this volume, small in size but overwhelming in the impact of its contents, belongs in the home of every citizen of the United States.

http://www.amazon.com/Declaration-Independence-Constitution-United-America/dp/0878401431/sr=1-1/qid=1159970179/ref=sr_1_1/104-2039913-1754349?ie=UTF8&s=books

By John Dean. No political book has ever brought me closer to crying for what has been lost.

I even made a list of the Goldwater-era conservative books mentioned in it, to read for myself.