Meet Mark Foley's partner

Layne Nisenbaum



Apparently, despite Mark Foley's denials and his attempts to blame the DEMS for claiming he was gay, Foley has been involved in a relationship with another man for over 19 years.

It seems everyone around Palm Beach knew about it and made sure that when they invited the two to parties and social events that they were seated at different tables. Got to keep up appearances you know.

I wonder if Mr. Nisenbaum knew about his partner's desires for young boys?

Is that part of the closeted life?

Wearing a large suit makes your head look smaller. Very artsy.

Dermatologist Dr. Layne Nisenbaum helps keep Palm
Beach's beautiful people looking their best. "My goal is to
make people look better, not different," notes the nattily
dressed doctor, whose flawless complexion is his best
advertisement.

http://www.islanddermatology.com/aboutus.html

And he brags about how well he can keep secrets:

That I may have treated them earlier that day is our little secret,"
demurs Nisenbaum discreetly.

stop making sense making sense.

;)

He looks pleasant enough, though. Better than Fat Denny Hastert, that's for sure.

stockbroker I had lots of physicians as clients. We had names for their specialties. Dermatologists we called..... "Zit Pickers." Urologists were plumbers.... etc...

Anyway.... Foley's guy is a dermatologist AKA a zit picker.

"Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in shabby clothes also comes in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say 'here's a good seat for you,' but say to the poor man 'Sit on the floor by my feet,' have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?" James 2:2-4

is one of those "unconstructed" Palm Beach fashion statements. See, they BOTH are wearing the big, loose cut look...

If you showed up at that soiree with clothing that fit, you'd probably be sneered at because you weren't wearing the cool, loose clothes.

James needs to scamper around the diamond districts in some of the world's major cities. The guys carrying a fortune in gems look like street people.

for Manual Noreiga.

Nice, young, fit, swedish boys. They always looked like they were on their way to a prayer service or the Olympics.

(I worked for a jewelry manufacturer that didn't mind exchanging their cash for gold.)

saw a similar pic in another thread, wish i could find it again...

:scared: What is the old saying, if a couple spends x number of years married to each other, they start to look alike?

You could ask the same question of a woman who's been with a man for 19 years.. I'm sure there are many men in long-standing relationships who lust after teenaged girls..

It's about ACTING on those feelings..

Every "old guy" with a trophy wife hooked up with a YOUNG woman.. Why would the feelings be different with a gay couple?

remember Frank Sinatra-Mia Farrow

down my throat I could care less what someone does in their private life.

The problem with Foley he tried to present himself has a moral authority, especially when it came to protecting children from sexual predators.

It's one thing to think about or lusting after someone, it's another matter entirely when you act out those desires and it involves underage Congressional Pages.

I feel very conflicted about gay republicans.. I cannot understand how they can tolerate being reviled by the people the represent..and I cannot understand how people who "know" they are electing a gay person to office can turn off their "hatred" because they think this person can fatten their pocketbook..

It's a toxic relationship at the core.. I will never understand it..

Enablers all-round..

right up thru the election, -- enter Bush bombing Iran plans but who's listening?...

like 'em young.

:(

sort of.

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I have no interest in nosing into the private relationships of consenting adults, public figure or not.

His public relationships with minors is fair game, however.

I disagree with you.

I want to know more about this Nisenbaum character and what he knows about other Gay elected Republican hypocrites- what he knew & when he knew it.

It was about how does his partner "feel" about Foley being "untrue".

The OP was about the relationship between Nisenbaum and Foley, which is none of our business.

Furthermore, I will still cry foul at the suggestion that Nisenbaum is suspicious or worthy of investigation solely because of his association with Foley. With your logic, we should investigate Foley's neighbor, his housekeeper, his mother, and maybe his barber. Mere association does not alone justify suspicion.

looked the other way?

How Rich:puke:that they could always put down people who are homosexual and yet "look the other way" and "keep it a secret" when they want to keep one of their own in that power position.


RepubliCONS make me :puke:

When they could be working to make this world a better place by being INCLUSIVE,they hide behind their "Anti- Gay Talking Points."

I am delighted that he finally had to come out and tell the world that he is who he is ~ a homosexual male.

Now maybe he can spend the rest of his life working to see that homosexuals do not have to live a life of ducking and dodging.

Maybe he and his partner can attempt to get married and feel the sting of not being able to because of the hate and the evil laws he has helped to create.

In my past life as a Republican activist (decades ago) it was widely known that I was gay. Anyone who even thought of raising the issue was told by party officials that such things are a private matter and are not to be discussed.

There are many many gay Republicans, some of whom are, I would guess (I have no inside information here) as prominent or even more prominent than Foley. In practice, the party doesn't care who is gay (or anything else untoward or thought by bigots to be untoward) as long as it remains quiet, and it will protect their own. "Family Values" are a marketing slogan, not an internal policy.

The Democrats have long operated in a similar manner, though they've in recent years they've become so afraid of the far right "exposing" anything that they have trended towards avoiding candidates with the slightest whiff of potential scandal or controversy (no mmatter how ridiculous the potential scandal and no matter how otherwise qualified the candidate might be).

sad, Democrat or Thug, that it is that way.

We have a new Councilman in Santa Monica,he identified as GAY from the beginning of the campaign and everyone voted for him because he was THE BEST CANDIDATE.

To me, that is what America should be about ~
PEACE

Why are we dragging this guy into it?

about being gay and claimed that it was liberal activist DEMS who were making up these stories.

this is beyond me.

Let's not have a double standard, please.

Laura shouldn't be dragged into it either. Neither should anybody's kids. Sex sure brings out the lynch mob on both sides of the aisle.

Always have been.

I don't support a double standard.

What are the last 5 threads about Laura Bush in which you posted your question of why she's being dragged into this?

nor that they always have been.

Do you remember the outrage so many felt when the media started picking apart Dr. Judith Dean, Howard's wife?

It's not just, it's not fair, and it's not productive.

Also, they're not spouses. According to the law, they're just roommates. :)

And simply identifying someone is not the same thing as "picking apart".

You consider this frenzy "simply identifying"?

Much like any other spouse would be.

I don't support a double standard.

as long as they are up front about it. Instead, Foley repeatedly lied and not only lied but put the blame on DEMS and called us liars.

Not only did he lie but he supported legislation that bans gay marriage and doesn't allow gay partners the benefits that heterosexual partners are granted. Apparently Foley is rich enough and privilaged enough that he doesn't need or care about other gay people's rights.

Some were trying to argue that he was a pedophile, beyond quibbling over the definition of 'child' or what the word's come to mean in the last decade or so; it was precisely the immature aspect of the adolescent males that turned him on, the claim went. More than a couple claimed that as soon as these kids matured further and stopped looking immature he'd lose all interest--that he might have homosexual tendencies, but he was strictly into pedophilia, and not really gay.

legislation that ensured that MrCoffee and those like MrCoffee were relegated to second class status?

Foley has voted with the anti-gay crowd consistently.

The question then arises, when this guy is brought forth (and a slew of Palm Beach socialites indicate they are "in" on Foley's and the dermatologist's little "secret"): Why would he put up with that crap?

Geez, this IS the 21st Century after all...

Many closeted gays are anti-gay.

Why do you assume their relationship mirrors yours or anyone elses? People live and love in a wide variety of configurations that work for them. You can't narrowly define other in terms of what's familiar to you.

And maybe they deserve each other. But IS he actually closeted?

The simple fact that everyone within their Palm Beach social circle "knew" makes it clear that Foley was a big hypocrite, and if what you propose is true, his partner is as well.

why would he put up with this crap?

I can't imagine being in a long term relationship (19 years) with someone who had to pretend I didn't exist and repeatedly lied in public about it. I don't care how rich and powerful my partner was, I want to be with someone who is proud of me and our relationship.

MrCoffee because I live in Massachusetts, where a spouse of a Mister can also be a Mister, see?

and the families)

Would a pedarest who is married to a woman look creepy when photographed with his wife?

The only questioned I raised was whether or not Mr. Nisenbaum was aware that his partner was fooling around with teenagers? If he did know, then at the best he is an enabler, at the worse he could be an accessory to a crime.

If Nisenbaum and Foley were ordinary people, Foley would be in jail and Nisenbaum would have been brought in for questioning by now.

If anyone knew he was messing around with underage kids, that person abetted a crime. Or whatever hte legal jargon is. I agree.

I think living a double life that includes being a Religious Right-winger while being gay AND into young boys in quite creepy.

A gay couple-open or otherwise- does not creep me out at all- only the hypocritical Repubs & Fundies who like non-consenting young boys.

secrecy.

They look like nice people. And maybe they really are.

As much as I deplore Foley's actions -- his abuse of his privileged position, his deceit, etc. -- I think underneath the hypocrisy there's someone who really does care about children being preyed upon. And maybe he knew his own demons too well.

Does that excuse him? No. What he did was wrong, and nothing will change that. He did the right thing in resigning, and there are some coverer-uppers who need to follow that example, especially since they had no excuse but their lust for power.

But I do believe there's some validity in the "hate the sin but love the sinner" mantra.

(I'm trying very hard to apply that to Fred Phelps, and I'm not sure it's working. . . .. :evilgrin:)


Tansy Gold

he wouldn't have had to live a lie most of his life.

Say Mr. Nisenbaum, nice outfit. NOT. I think him dressing that way as a ruse of course, is taking it to the limits; I mean there is only so far one can go to hide their sexuality as a gay man.

But the table seating thing, is almost a definition of Republicans and their beliefs. Everything is separate. Nothing connects. There is no relationship of one issue or problem or issue; they all stand alone, and by merely putting them at different tables...VOILA, no problem.

Here is the Global warming table, over in the corner. Over there on the other side of the room is the nutty alternative energy table. Maybe they can say hello at the buffet.

Mr. Nisenbaum is a creature. A remora on the ass of another heinous creature.

if Foley would still have become a pedophile?

and if he could have been allowed to express his sexuality in appropriate ways it would be much less likely.

It seems to be a big problem among 'religious' fundie christians. They are taught from childhood that sex is bad and dirty and needs and you have to repress your desires. The result is a lot of deviant behavior.

:puke:

that related to The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children Board of Directors is being followed up on since Mr. Foley was the Chairman of The House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children and also the sponsor of HR 5749.

There are indeed a lot of concerns raised about the background and networks of some of the members of that powerful Board.

I encourage contributions from other DUers to this NCMEC thread as well as crossposting, and I thank you, DoYouEverWonder, for sparking research into that component of Mr. Foley's expanding scandal.

The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children Board of Directors
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2280827

to believe, that Foley, well aware of the damage done by child abusers, was active and truly dedicated to the issue of child abuse and stopping it? He is apparently a victim of abuse and used his position to do something about it. Just because he hasn't successfully dealt with his own demons doesn't make him particularly suspect as an activist against child abuse. People seem to be taking the same black or white, bad or good view of Foley that they are always accusing Repubs of taking in other instances. The man can be good and bad at the same time.

Why come up with it FOR them?

We are fools to even give an INCH worth of benefit of the doubt.

no gay-bashing necessary. we're playing into the terrorists' hands.

and this has SO much to do with his predilections toward underage men. :eyes:

It's posts like this that make me feel SO welcome on DU.

:sarcasm:

And I think that matters.

denied it for so many years.

And too bad Foley is part of party whose main agenda items is the bashing of gays and the denial of their rights.

If Foley had been honest and up front about his sexual orientation and the fact that he's been in a long term relationship, none of this would be a problem.

The matter at hand is that the inappropriate sexual contact with a minor. The fact that he may be a closeted homosexual is irrelevant at this point. However, I'd like to thank you for throwing 'teh gays' under the bus for political expediency.

this has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. It has to do with his lying and the people who enabled him.

If Foley wasn't a rich and powerful Congressman he would be in jail right now. His home and his office would have been torn apart and his 'partner' would have been brought in for questioning.

There's more than one issue at hand.

He's in the closet, his partner is in the closet, and he's cheating on his partner with young teens in inappropriate (at a minimum) and possibly CRIMINAL relationships and supplying these children with alcohol.

You're not hitting that trifecta, are you?

Let's not even discuss his shitty attitude and lousy voting records as regards people who have relationships such as the one pictured above, but live their lives out loud and aren't embarrassed about who they are and don't feel a need to hide their partnership. This guy won't sit at the same TABLE with his partner because he doesn't want anyone to know what he's about...that's pretty sick.

Should we "welcome" people who behave in that fashion? Who are hypocrites? Who are ashamed? Who put down gay people? Who molest kids on the side and perhaps deceive their partner? I think not.

I think you're being a bit hypersensitive, frankly.

Mark Foley's partner must be going through some anguish right now. He did nothing wrong.

everything about him is now of interest and about to be exposed.

You know - the same way every scandal touched hetero's spouse appears in the news.

Nineteen years. They should be preparing to celebrate twenty years of love and commitment, not going through this mess because of whatever emotional traumas "taboo" sex caused them.

Have a good friend who was, in his 30's, the kind of man who could make an entire gay bar get whiplash--Joe Montana looks, but with blonde hair. Great athletic build. Tall, masculine, sport shirts and jeans...well, you get the drill. Could have modeled, done porn, the works. (Still very handsome at 45.)

His dream men: Wilford Brimley. John Goodman. Ned Beatty (yes, NED BEATTY!). Santa Claus. Any man from the "Papa bear" mold.

There's gotta be an 18-or-19-year-old out there who likes older, chunkier, "real" men--especially ones with lots and lots of cash assets. (Not to mention the book he'll write, the talk show circuit, etc.--see Jim McGreevy for examples.)

Mark Foley may yet find his dream boy--but legally, he has to be a man of 18, and not a subordinate. And hopefully, all of this proves the phrase "you're only as sick as your secrets"--hope he's moving towards some healing.

Hastert, however, I hope is going DOWN.

She's showing off her cleavage but no onw is interested.:)