Foley Pales In Importance To Imminent Ongoing Attack on Iran LINK

This DU link provides the warning that the Iranian attack decision has already been made and is already underway:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2301544&mesg_id=2301544

The points in the linked thread are not getting the attention they deserve. IMHO the following need to be at the top of the discussion list everywhere, today.

*The UN is not going to implement sanctions b/c there is no credible evidence of uranium enrichment above 3%, and it takes 90% enrichment to make bomb grade material. That means Iran is YEARS away from being able to make a bomb. The UN nuclear watchdog group has branded the US report as "erroneous" and "misleading." So the hope of getting a Security Counsel resolution authorizing sanctions, let alone force, against Iran is not possible.

*The very real danger that the Pentagon Brass acknowledges, and Bush/Rumsfeld are ignoring, is that our 140,000 troops in Baghdag and the nearby area could be surrounded by Iraqis who are presently fighting one another, and turn there attacks on our troops there. While there are plans by Top Brass to evacuate our troops there (in much the same manner as we did in Vietnam), this would be a bloody mess with a large loss of life. We have no reserves to provide pushback and cover, and if we did it would result in huge loss of life among Iraqi civilians. It could be the worst possible situation from every angle.

*The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon Generals who are bound to follow the instructions of the Commander in Chief(Bush) have been leaking for months that they are deadset against an attack on Iran. Murtha has been in contact with them and is really their mouthpiece, sounding the warnings that they cannot publicly sound themselves.

*The problem with Bush is that he feels no restraint on his decision to move forward in an attack on Iran. At every turn Bush has acquired and consolildated more independent power. But the really scary aspect of this decision is that Bush believes he has been providentially placed in this position to do this. He ignores the intelligence, and listens only to the yes-men around him who have a skewed PNAC reality about our military power and destiny.

*The guaranteed response from the Iranians will include ground troops moving across the border into Iraq, and the US will either have to retreat and evacuate under fire or stay and fight the bloodiest battle since WWII. It will absolutely require the immediate implementation of a military draft since we have no reserve troops ready to support them, and our failure to repair and replace equipment will leave our troops vulnerable in a way we have not experienced before.

*If we stay and fight rather than evacuate under fire, you can bet that the infliction of unacceptable losses on Iran and its populace would be considered by Bush --meaning he would consider use of tactical nuclear weapons "to protect our troops." Consider for a moment where that would put us in relation to the rest of the world. The condemnation would be almost universal.
I doubt the UK would support the US in that decision, and our only ally would likely be Israel.
You cannot fight the entire Middle East at once, and that is where we would find ourself.

*The United States is not waiting to accomplish a diplomatic solution. We are already conducting troop operations inside Iran, and putting military forces in place for the "official" start of hostilities. But in reality this has been going on for over six months --there is no real diplomatic effort, and there is no stopping Bush at the last moment.

We cannot say we had no idea this war with Iran was coming. THe signs are everywhere. If this country fixates on the Foley affair and takes no action to stop this slow motion attack on Iran, the results will be unalterable and disasterous for this and the next generation.

My Theory is this WAR is Rove's "October Surprise" for this election.

I wonder how they will conduct it in such as way as to get us sheeple to overwhelmingly VOTE REPUBLICAN?

How could they possibly go to war and achieve this NUMBER ONE OBJECTIVE OF MAINTAINING A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN CONGRESS AND THE SENATE at the same time?

Answer me this.

-85% Jimmy

It's the last shoe to drop. If the powers-that-be so decide, an easy course is to "allow" Bush to be assassinated by an "Iranian" terrorist, this providing the rationale for attacking Iran and simultaneously declaring martial law.

Just speculation, but frightening nonetheless since this appears to be well within the operating parameters of this criminal group.

... however, Bush has been a good figurehead for them and has not turned on them.

I see "extending" Bush's stay in office by "temporarily postponing elections because of national emergency" as more likely than Bush being taken out to justify the Iranian attack.

scenario is scarier. It would put Ch*** in direct control.

...Repubs have been reading the polls and tea leaves for a long, long time. There is no way they can steal the next election without there being public outrage given the large poll gaps they are seeing.

Remember, the attack on Iran is not a political issue. Rather it is what they want and intend to do while they still have a majority of both Houses to provide cover. The political advantage that will result is a collateral benefit to Repubs in the midterm elections.

And once the attack has begun, that is the only issue you will hear about .....

i have no such illusion. We all have a pretty good idea what would happen if dem's win the 06 election and take charge of the house in these upcoming mid-term elections, i don't believe the Bu$h admin can or will let that happen.

We have @ five weeks between now and the midterms, this will be the tipping point for our democracy. I'll be happy to shout at the top of my lungs to put a stop to an attack on Iran, but i'm afraid it want stop the oncoming conflict.

Gore/Obama!

president and his ratings would zoom back up into the 80% range, which will carry over to the republican victory at the polls.

Diebold guarantees it.

Take a look at a company called Emergent BioSolutions. It's all set up to crank out 100 million doses of anthrax vaccine that nobody wants or needs. It's also well connected with people connected to 9/11. The FBI just washed its hands of the previous anthrax attacks, saying that despite many public results released saying otherwise, now they just don't know what kind of anthrax it was or where it came from.

They did it to us before, and they're going to do it to us again. You don't steal two trillion dollars and then just expect to waltz away with it scot free. These people have to enslave us, and destroy our ability to strike back at them when they leave with their ill-gotten gains. They are succeeding famously as it is, but when Americans are forced to do what the White House says to get the drugs that prevent them from dying, that's when the transition to dictatorship is complete.

I figure it'll all go down within the next eighteen months, sooner or later depending on all the scandals they're getting away with.

In this case, pretext = Reichstag fire.

The public will not accept another attack on a middle-eastern country that has not "attacked us".

Yes, I know that Bush doesn't operate by the same notions of "consent of the governed" as we do, but even he and his staff have to pay some attention to the real world political consequences of an unprovoked attack on Iran (which would be seismic).

Significant surge in "put options" on the stock market (Somebody is planning for something to happen.).

If there is a "surprise" "terrorist" "attack" on the US, then expect the bombing of Iran to proceed quickly - but without it, I just don't believe Bush has the political capital to make it happen.

..into the time frame we are facing (if people with inside knowledge expect to profit from a terrorist attack or a supposed attack on us by Iraq).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2278395

From the this post, it appears to be early October.

I guess we'll see all too soon.

... It will take intense scrutiny by the American people of the facts we know about, and the communication of the message to 'insiders' that if they follow their conscience and out the information needed to expose this operation that they will be embraced and protected for their acts of patriotism.

So far there is a well defined stream of information from those in sensitive posts who cannot speak out themselves.

IMHO it will take an act equivalent to the "Pentagon Papers" in the Vietnam War context to bring the real information and bad actors into the public domain.

The problem is that time is growing short, and people seem to be fixated on Foley and other issues as this operation steams ahead.

Why is the media ignoring these deaths?

It is like the celebrity coverage that passes for news reporting.

However, in this case I get the feeling that the MSM is purposefully avoiding coverage of other newsworthy events.

There is so much more important news that should be covered .MSM is just too focused on Foley! Lets get Condi and the rest center front, and the possobity of us attacking Iran. It is a scary thought, I hope it is just sabber ratteling ! Could bush be that stupid? I don't know how we can prevent it if he decides they are next. We sure has hell know gas prices will take another jump! Right after elections we can look for them to sky rocket again, he'll be all over Iran !

.... preferably under oath, as to what she knew and when she knew it.

Her various stories and changes in position are rivalling Hastert's, and in her case the result is not DEAD BODIES!!!!!

She is responsible for keeping this charade going and costing soldiers their lives.

and the regime wants the people to remain ignorant and arrogant.

...but does the U.N. come into this AT ALL?

I guess what I am asking is there a higher power than Bush that can put a stop to this.
Ignoring his own country's law is one thing :sarcasm: but there's some pretty big players on the rest of the planet...and THEY aren't intimidated by Shotgun Dick or Slimeball Rove...

:banghead::scared:

Hastert stepping down won't curb momentum, the GOP is finally being exposed for the corruption involved.

Could there be "face to face and voice only" plans among the noncom units (historical basis in other countries here) for a guardian coup if * attacks Iran or calls off the elections?What would that look like, could/would it be a "surigical assault" on the WH or something, or M1A1's rolling down Penn. Ave a la Russia 1993?