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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:17 PM
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I Feel Like America Is Gone
I read about ships now heading for Iran, and fear that all hell will now break loose and those torture bills passed will most surely come in handy for anyone who dares to not go along with it. I read about the border fence going up between Mexico and the U.S. and in my mind it is more to keep us in than anyone else out. And according to what I read a few months ago, cameras are also being installed along the Canadian border. I suppose then once the boom is lowered, martial law declared, or some other catastrophe befalls us we will be cornered. How unbelievable it is that any government could hate their own people so much. But oh, how the defense and security industries will profit, and after all, that's what it's all about.

I believe we are indeed heading for a Police State where dissenters will be shut up, disappeared, or whatever else "The Decider" feels is necessary for he and his Straussian brothers to maintain their status quo. I believe elections will never be if they ever were, free again. Bush may well leave in 2009, but it will not be without installing someone else who carries their ideology to continue their plans. As for 2006, count me skeptical. They didn't go through all of this and work to accumulate so much power (or rather, work to have us hand it to them on a damn silver platter) to just give it all away, especially to anyone who would undo it. They will continue to kill innocent people in our name. They will continue to show no respect for the rule of law international or otherwise.

We will continue to live in a country where torture is now considered mainstream, and the rights of citizens are no more. I feel as if America is gone. I have never felt this kind of dread where I cannot see the horizon, and that scares me more than anything. I don't see outrage. I don't see anger. I don't see leadership. Washington DC is no longer a place that I once in my youth so naively saw as a place of justice and truth. And for the life of me, I cannot understand what has happened to the people in this country as a whole.

I can truly say that I despise those who pretend to be our "leaders" who have now made this Democracy unrecognizable, but I can't express right now how absolutely incensed I am at a populace that would continue to allow this to go on due to their WILLFUL IGNORANCE. I thought six years ago that when the election was stolen that surely it would never stand... and look at where it brought us. And I told people then that was only the first step in their master plan. We should have stood up then. We should have done all in our power to keep Bush out then and in 2004 instead of playing politics, and I am SO PISSED at the American people for all of this.

What more would they have to do in order for people to get off their asses and do something?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:24 PM
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1. Fear is the tool used by the GOP
They want to keep the people so focused on fear and protection so they can continue their corporate greedy empire building.

Great post.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:35 PM
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2. A DRAFT is the only thing that will get the people off their asses
Properly mandated, it is not a political hot potato.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:17 PM
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13. Yeah well they won't be getting my sons for their PNAC agenda!
End of story! :grr:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:39 PM
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3. But, but, but ... they're 'pragmatists'! Their ends justify their means.
It turns out that some other 'ends' have justified their means, too. :eyes:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:41 PM
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4. The country passed away, fully
last Thursday

And you know what? Most people still have their heads under the sand, or cannot see how far the country is now dead and mostly buried.

What will it take for people to get off their assess? A draft, or anything else that will make them break through their own sense of anomie and loneliness.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 03:46 PM
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5. We can bring back the America we once knew and even a better America
If the people took control of the power they have they could turn this country around. The thing that stops it is all the political and religious division. Those in power try to keep us fighting against each other rather than have us pull together to get what we want.

Right wingers need to stop hating us and vice versa, We need to stop scape goating immigrants and gays .

A song that constantly goes through my ming goes like this.

REACH OUT OF THE DARKNESS
Friend & Lover

I think it's so groovy now
That people are finally getting together
I thinks it's so wonderful and how
That people are finally getting together
Reach out in the darkness
Reach out in the darkness
Reach out in the darkness
And you may find a friend

I knew a man that I did not care for
And then one day this man gave me a call
We sat and talked about things on our mind
And now this man he is a friend of mine
Don't be afraid of love
Don't be afraid, don't be afraid to love
Everybody needs a little love
Everybody needs somebody
That they can be thinking of
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:07 PM
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6. I am torn between days of feeling despair over the situation
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 04:10 PM by Uncle Joe
and some optimistic days of knowing this crime against or nation and the planet by the usurpers will not stand. I have to keep my faith in the experiment started by our founders and as Al Gore said "political will is a renewable resource".

I believe we as a nation have become fat and comfortable after World War 2, our focus began to change from community to "what's in it for me", "or what have done you for me lately" or "show me the money". There have been golden moments for sure, such as the Civil Right Laws, but we have slowly changed the definition of democracy to capitalism confusing the two. This ambiguity with the people has allowed the corrupted ones to take over, I believe this is part of the reason the mass corporate media fuzzed the picture up between the two words. I would be willing to bet, that you will hear the American People described as consumers 100 times on television or radio for every time they describe us as citizens. When we were attacked on 9/11, the best advice Bush could come up with for the people was not prepare to sacrifice but to go shopping.The reason for this: consumers are mindless locusts or sheep easily controlled by those in power, citizens are empowered to control their own lives. The corrupted ones do not want an empowered educated citizenry lest we recognize their lies and do something about it. The choice is up to us as to which we want to be remembered as.

Kicked and recommended

:kick:
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:33 PM
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7. 5th vote
Keep posting.

Too many do not know yet who the neocons are and what they stand for. As more learn, it will get better as they are pushed out of politics.

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:43 PM
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8. We keep waiting for a Politcal Massiah, and none came
And many of us are too afraid and/or otherwise occupied to take to the streets. We would but we're just oh so busy, and mass demonstrations don't even make the news anymore.

What we need, more than anything, I believe, is our own TV news outlet. Until then, we are outmatched and our message never gets through en masse.

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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:51 PM
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9. F*k Fear
The world can turn on a dime. Keep faith. It's a new season. These are times unlike any in recorded history. Our work is before us and it will be hard. But for every one of us you see - there are thousands you can't see. Take heart.

Fuck Fear.

J
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 04:59 PM
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10. K & R!
:kick:
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 05:04 PM
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11. show up at the OCT 5th WORLD CANT WAIT protest...
I'm equally disillusioned about our country and frustrated with the lack of visible public anger. I think it's partially that people are busy with their lives, and if it doesn't affect them directly they just complain to themselves and shrug on. Also, the MSmedia makes it appear as if there is less public dissent than there actually is.

The Pukes learned from Vietnam to have an all volunteer army for their imperial aspirations, so that most Americans, except pockets of supportive military families, would be affected. If we had a draft, people would be out in the streets. They just need to keep us all pacified with just enough material goods and entertainment that people don't feel compelled to take action.


I'm going to this protest tomorrow:

www.worldcantwait.com


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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:03 PM
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12. The GOP uses three tools to win:
1. Religious insanity - it's the reason why assholes like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson keep getting television air time - to keep their sheep-like followers in the dark.

2. Fear - Pretty self-explanatory.

3. Idiocy - The GOP does not like a well-educated populace capable of critical thinking. Ever notice how on television, especially channels like Fox News, how intellectuals are looked down upon in favor of missing white girls? Ever look at the best seller list at the local Borders? It's like Peter Griffin chose the list of books. The stupid thrive on the GOP's bullshit. They eat it up (literally). They watch the president on TV like he's a fucking movie star. They buy the books that spew the same crap over and over. They watch crap from Katie Couric and what's her name on daytime television. Idiocy is what sells.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:18 PM
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14. Brother, your country died when the movement died in the 1970s
It died when all the "good guys" met their end at the end of an assassin's bullet.
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