Fordham Himself is Gay, Scarborough: Foley-Fordham "as close as possible"

Here's the latest and the greatest, Kirk Fordham, Reynolds' former Chief of Staff, and Foley's former Chief of Staff, is himself gay, and perhaps had a relationship with Mark Foley.

Joe Scarborough said last night that Foley and Fordham were "as close as possible -- politically".



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He said the real story will be that the closeted gay Republicans kept it secret or something, or that the Republican base will be surprised at how many gays work in the party.

I bet the person that Fordham told was also gay in Hastert's office. This is the reason they took the political risk of keeping it quiet, they didn't want to break the GOP big tent of homophobes and "thinking" conservatives.

The List of high ranking gay staffers. Seems to be many. So many that your average Billy-bob, right wing, God-fearin' Repug voter is gonna be shocked.

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and may even cause the fundies to form a Christian Democratic party, or something similar.

"What's interesting about The List--which includes nine chiefs of staffs, two press secretaries, and two directors of communications--is that (if it's accurate) it shows that some of the religious right's favorite representatives and senators have gay staffers helping them advance their political careers and agendas. These include Representative Katherine Harris and Henry Hyde and Senators Bill Frist, George Allen, Mitch McConnell and Rick Santorum. Should we salute these legislators for being open-minded enough to have such tolerant hiring practices? After all, Santorum in a 2003 AP interview compared homosexuality to bestiality, incest and polygamy. It would be rather big of Santorum to employ a fellow who engages in activity akin to such horrors. That is, if Santorum knows about his orientation."

Um, if we find single people working as chiefs of staff and press secretaries and directors of communication, wouldn't that kind of be specific enough to find out?

What kind of twisted, self loathing psyches do these people have? It CAN'T be all about tax cuts with these people

the GOP wants to turn this into a witch hunt,and blame them for this scandal, and lump pedophiles with homesexuals.
dont give them any help

"The difference is our gay guys (the Democrats) aren't anti-gay, like your gay guys (the Republicans)"

and since we all suspect there are few at the top of the GOP leadership who have normal, boring sex lives, we know they're going to implode.

That's what the right does best, the witch hunt, and how that hunt has them turning on themselves.

I wondered why Fordham was fired, and now I know. I think Fordham probably did keep it quiet for as many as 10 years, but one page decided he'd had enough, thanks, and started to circulate the evidence. Hastert knew for at least a year, probably longer. Hastert is responsible for trying to keep the lid on since then.

I doubt they'll try a witch hunt in the rest of the country, getting out gays and lesbians fired from their jobs, etc., like they did in the days of the black list 50s, at least beyond their own party. There are a lot more gays and lesbians that there ever were Communists, for one thing.

I dunno, I grew up on the fringes of showbiz, so I've always seen the whole range of sexuality as normal, so maybe it's just me. I just don't think they can muster enough people with torches and pitchforks to do what you are afraid of.

2nd thought: you're right

they will. The religious nutcake base will vote against anyond who has any sort of a sex life, gay or straight. Their screwball death cult has always been pro war and anti reproduction. Well, anti reporoduction that feels good.

There is nothing we can do about the 25% of the country that is hard core crazy but defeat them and push them back to the lunatic fringe where they can be left alone to be as crazy as they want to be.

I think the fallout from the internal witch hunt will eventually cause the GOP to split from the sex phobic religious nutcases. They may be a handy voting bloc, but they're also turning off the GOP rank and file.

This too shall pass, as anyone who has suffered a bout of constipation knows.

Worst case scenario: "Getting caught with a dead girl... or a live boy."

Looks like you and Foley are two sides of the same coin, Joe!

Instead of gaining acceptance for gays, and dashing homophobia, I can easily see this all turn into a witch hunt of any gay politician. From there, to any gay person.

They're working very hard to conflate child molestation with homosexuality. This is the logical next step. We have watched how it's done: just see the Catholic church and the demonization of homosexuals instead of the bishops who refused to deal with child molesters in their midst.

being a predator on same-sex kids.

This is just getting out of control.

on kids, period. This would be just as bad if he was sending nasty IMs to females. But since he picked boys it is easier to blame gay as a diversion.

who sanctimoniuosly push homophobia and anit-gay legislation like DOMA. THe gay community itself has decided outing anti-gay gays to the Republican base is now VERY IMPORTANT.

This could be more than a one pronged attack.

after the female pages.. It has to be going on. Just using statistical information will tell you that. It is all about GAYS...

It's all tied together. How many openly gay members of the GOP are there? This is how the big powers in the GOP suppress the little powers in the GOP. That's why the issue is so explosive, because people are going to find out that there are just as many GOP gays as there are gays in the Democratic party.

I, for one, would like for all of them to be honest about their sexuality, so maybe the GOP can stop using the gay issue as a wedge once and for all. There are just so many more important priorities in life than someone's personal choice of partner if that partner is a consenting adult.

I hope fordham doesn't go down without taking denny with him.

That won't discourage the anti-gay base, it will energize them if they can frame it as an issue that equates the "gay-lifestyle" or how they call it with pedophilia.

Should we really try to "out" gay Republicans? It seems to be dirty politics. On the other side, if there are quite many openly gay Republicans, it may help to fight some taboos about one of the Repub's favourite wedge issues.

LOL!

for the Wingnuts to consider this a 'GAY' problem, rather than an abuse of popwer cover up

:puke:

the following about the Velvet Mafia.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2298454&mesg_id=2298454

of votes.

I nearly fell out of my chair. ;-)

Gay = Pedophile. Pedophile = Gay.

This is going to start an anti-Gay Jihad, mark my words.

Also, Fordham was the one credible voice because he now has nothing left to lose. If he gets painted with the same gay/pedophile brush, he loses all credibility to implicate higher-ups (read: Hastert, Reynolds).

What a disaster.