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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:04 AM
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Khameini: Don't masturbate during Ramadan
Khameini: Don't masturbate during Ramadan
Iran's supreme leader answers questions on masturbation and other topics on his website
Yaakov Lappin Published: 10.04.06, 19:55

Deliberate masturbation during the month of Ramadan renders a fast invalid, Iranian Supreme Leader Sayyid Ali Khameini has ruled. Khameini, who is Iran's most powerful political and religious figure, was asked on his website : "If somebody masturbates during the month of Ramadan but without any discharge, is his fasting invalidated?"

"If he do not intend masturbation and discharging semen and nothing is discharged, his fasting is correct even though he has done a ḥarām (forbidden) act. But, if he intends masturbation or he knows that he usually discharges semen by this process and semen really comes out, it is a ḥaram intentional breaking fasting," the Iranian leader said, posting the reply on his website.

Another reader asked: "Once in the holy month of Ramadan, I forgot to brush my teeth, and some tiny bits of food remained in my mouth. I swallowed the bits unintentionally. Do I have to perform the qaḍa (repent) for that day's fast?" "If you did not know that some bits of food remained between the teeth, or you did not know that they would reach the throat, and they were swallowed unknowingly and unintentionally, then you are not liable to make (repent) of the fast," said Khameini.

The Iranian leader also told readers they were allowed to "to drink water while standing" at nights...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3311189,00.html
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:06 AM
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1. Or during a vote in the house of representatives while IMing boys
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:10 AM
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5. That's more of a 'guideline' than a rule, right?
:eyes:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:12 AM
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7. Ahrrr
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:07 AM
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2. Well, if that's what makes them happy.
:eyes:
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:07 AM
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3. Oh Yeah. That's All Perfectly Understandable.
Geez. Religious nutjobs are religious nutjobs, no matter their holy books.
The Professor
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:09 AM
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4. Yaakov Lappin?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:12 AM
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6. I hope he heeds his own advice.
I'll bet the American Taliban can relate to this, too. "Do as we say, not as we do."
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:13 AM
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8. I'm out.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:18 AM
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11. What!!!!!???? You are not master of your domain????
:-)
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:15 AM
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9. can I confess my sins to a priest if I tossed during Ramadan?
cause I don't know any Imams.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:15 AM
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10. That's the problem with
fundies, Islam and Christianity. They don't masturbate enough. They would mellow out a lot if they indulged in self love.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:18 AM
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12. I find lashing my back bloody gives some relief from lustful thoughts
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:21 AM
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17. For some,
lashes across the back are lustful thoughts.:spank::)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:18 AM
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13. So ignorance really is bliss?
Seems the problem is knowing about it, not the doing of it.

Ahh religion, gotta love it.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:19 AM
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14. So women Muslims?
They can masturbate like crazy then? Who says this is a sexist religion?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:20 AM
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16. sure, but then they must be beheaded
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:20 AM
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15. Yet another reason why we must nuke them and steal their oil. To free
their willies.

That's the point isn't it?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:23 AM
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18. this is relevant to what exactly???
:shrug:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:26 AM
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19. You know - we're just talking about 30 days here.
It's not a lifetime.

And it's a matter of religious purity - it's not a standing rule during non-religious holidays.

It's nothing to make fun of. If you don't like the restrictions, fine, don't be a Muslim. I don't care and neither should anyone else.

But, let's refrain from calling people nut jobs because their religion doesn't allow them to masterbate during religious holidays.

God, some of you people aren't very tolerant of other religions - or religion, period - at all.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:46 AM
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23. I'm very tolerant of their abstaining from masturbating.
It just means there's more lotion to go around for the rest of us.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:31 AM
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20. and the religiously insane believe all this crapola - what a shame
nt
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:42 AM
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21. Don't masturbate and discharge on the new nukes we are making
That's all he meant to say...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:43 AM
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22. Oh, NOW he tells me. I also have to start Yom Kippur over again. n/t
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:47 AM
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24. This Is The Best Thread Today
K & R Happily!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:49 AM
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25. Hey, guys, at least it's just a month. Be glad you're not Catholic.
They're not supposed to do it EVER.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:51 AM
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26. "to keep society free from this horny jerk-off situation"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=4334526

http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/051121fa_fact4

I asked Belashabadi what he thought should be done about the satellite channels on which Iranians watch illicit fare such as music videos, Western movies, and political commentary from Iranian exiles abroad. “The majority of the population is young,” he said. “Young people by nature are horny. Because they are horny, they like to watch satellite channels where there are films or programs they can jerk off to.” The regime could filter the channels, he suggested, or it could try to educate the people to tune in to more wholesome programming. He concluded, “We have to do something about satellite television to keep society free from this horny jerk-off situation.”

My translator implored me, in a jaw-clenched monotone, “Please do not laugh right now. This is a very sensitive moment.”
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:55 AM
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28. BWWWWWAAAHHHAHAAHAAA!!!!!!!
And this is their leading cleric?

Honestly, I can't believe anyone takes religious nutjobs seriously? Wow. Just Wow.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:54 AM
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27. Damn, maybe we really do need to stop them over there--

Americans are gonna have an awful time with this one.
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