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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:12 PM
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Larisa Alexandrovna: 9/11 Widows BLAST Bush Admin Over Rice, Tenet Meeting
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 12:15 PM by kpete
9/11 widows blast Bush Administration over Rice, Tenet meeting

Larisa Alexandrovna
Published: Friday October 6, 2006


In an October 5th response to recent news of yet another pre-September 11th warning that was ignored by senior Bush administration officials, three widows who lost their husbands during the terrorist attcks have issued a statement about what they see as the failure of White House officials to act upon warnings that Al Qaeda was planning a strike on the United States.

Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg, and Patty Cazaza who are among the four widows from New Jersey known as the Jersey Girls (the fourth being Monica Gabrielle) have issued a compilation of pre-9/11 terrorism warnings that they believe paints a disturbing picture of a negligent Presidency.

They also address the latest revelation from Watergate reporter Bob Woodward that then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice was warned of a possible attack on July 10, 2001 by then-CIA Director George Tenet.


Their statement, in its entirety, follows:

Statement Regarding al Qaeda Threats
October 5, 2006

Astonishingly, five years post 9/11 the public is made aware about an urgent July 10, 2001 meeting that took place between former CIA Director George Tenet and then, National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice. This information comes from Bob Woodward's newly released book, "State of Denial".

Despite this Administration's rhetoric that they had "no warnings" leading up to 9/11, it has become abundantly clear, that key Administration officials were made aware of the vast array of Al Qaeda threats and warnings that existed in years prior, and more importantly, in the weeks leading up to September 11, 2001.

When we add the July 10, 2001 meeting to the plethora of other clear warnings that our government had, a very concise view of the al Qaeda threat emerges. Those other warnings include, but are not limited to:

Warnings from leaders of other nations and foreign intelligence apparatus' of terrorist threats

June 30, 2001 Senior Executive Intelligence Briefing (SEIB) entitled "bin Laden Threats Are Real"

The threat of President Bush's assassination at the G-8 Summit by al Qaeda in July of 2001 using aircraft to dive bomb the summit building

July 2001 Phoenix memo, which told of potential terrorists taking flight lessons

52 FAA warnings five of which mentioned al Qaeda's training for hijacking

August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Brief entitled "bin Laden Determined to Strike in US"

National Intelligence Estimate (NIE)entitled "Islamist Extremists Learn to Fly"

Intelligence agency heads describing themselves with their "hair on fire" to characterize the imminent nature of the threats they were intercepting from Al Qaeda and their sense of urgency in relating them to the Bush Administration

The arrest of Zacharias Moussaoui in August of 2001

FBI Agent Harry Samit's 70 unsuccessful attempts to get a FISA Warrant to examine Moussaoui's belongings

Aside from scheduling a National Security Council meeting on September 4, 2001, two months after the July 10 "connect the dots" briefing from CIA director, George Tenet, the abundance of post 9/11 reports and commissions found no evidence of any action taken by appropriate officials. The 9/11 Commission itself concluded that in spite of an unprecedented attack threat in the months before 9/11, US "domestic agencies never mobilized in response to the threat. They did not have direction, and did not have a plan to institute. The borders were not hardened. Transportation systems were not fortified. Electronic surveillance was not targeted against a domestic threat. State and local law enforcement were not marshaled to augment the FBI's efforts. The public was not warned."

While certain members of the 9/11 Commission recalled a January 28, 2004 closed session meeting with former CIA Director, George Tenet, where this urgent July 10, 2001 meeting was discussed, this meeting was not referenced in the Commission's final report.

In the transcript testimony, the former CIA Director described the non-routine meeting that he and Cofer Black called for with then National Security Advisor, Condoleeza Rice as one of the "starkest warnings" ever given by the CIA to the White House on Al Qaeda.

To our continued dismay, both the Bush Administration and the 9/11 Commission have consistently failed to give a complete and honest accounting to the American public with regard to their actions and inactions leading up to the devastation of September 11, 2001.

The inexcusable result of this less than truthful accounting has resulted in America making important national security decisions and passing legislation using the 9/11 Commission's conclusions and recommendations. Chillingly, these decisions appear to be based upon an unclear combination of partial truths mixed with distortions and omissions of important facts.

Incredibly, five years post 9/11 we have come full circle. In spite of all the clear warnings that our government received, why did those in power fail to invoke any defensive measures to protect our nation from the attacks of September 11, 2001?

We demand the immediate declassification and release of these latest documents and transcripts. The American public has the right to know what their government did or did not do to protect us from terrorist actions.

Finally, instead of reorganizing an entire intelligence community because they "weren't sharing information", and rather than telling us that "9/11 was a failure of imagination", what we needed was for the 9/11 Commission to state the truth and hold those responsible to account. The most effective change for America would be to have a National Security Council that understands that it is their job to translate vital information into action.


more from Larisa at:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/911_widows_blast_Bush_Administration_over_1006.html
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:12 PM
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1. I've been waiting for this
Oh happy day.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:45 PM
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23. Let the Senate hearings begin - Rice and Tenet and Ashcroft UNDER OATH.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:13 PM
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2. k&r
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:15 PM
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3. I do believe the M$Media has moved on to more 'convoluted' issues
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:16 PM
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4. K & R
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:17 PM
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5. Front and center on the Greatest Page. No Ifs ands or buts
This demands a New 9-11 Commission, after Nov 7th of course.
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:17 PM
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6. All right. Repukes have been complaining about all the Foley news
keeping other news out of headlines. Well here is some other good news for them. Let's hope this makes the headlines.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:25 PM
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7. KNR!
For the Jersey Girls.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:28 PM
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8. Oh YES! Indeed a happy day
"... what we needed was for the 9/11 Commission to state the truth and hold those responsible to account. The most effective change for America would be to have a National Security Council that understands that it is their job to translate vital information into action."

And an admonishment or two against the lackluster, non-imaginative Mainstream media would be nice as well.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:30 PM
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9. How is that for a double whammy
Bush said to one of the 9/11 widows, on the 5th anniversary of 9/11.
It was also her wedding anniversary.
Bush said Wow double whammy.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:30 PM
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10. the most interesting thing about this, aside from the fact that the New
Jersey Girls are getting back into it, is the fact that this story is FOUR fricking years old, and speaks to the massive M$M 'conspiracy' of silence surrounding the junta in general, and Condi, in particular

why in the world is she still considered untouchable? she skated clean after her clearly perjurious 911 Commission testimony, and says whatever she wants without any sort of followup scrutiny in the media.

anybody else find this inexplicable? even the likes of President Cheney and his monkeypuppet are getting lots of flak these days, but she seems immune. what gives?

Time story has been linked here, and I'll see if I can find it
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:53 PM
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17. Time story from FOUR years ago! did we talk about this then?
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 01:12 PM by Gabi Hayes
http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,333835,00.html

LOOK at this! WTF is wrong with the DEM party? why did they not make an issue of this? Oh, I forgot. they were all on board with the junta at this point. too scared to make an issue out of the fact that they LEFT us naked and unguarded against terror attacks. can you imagine if this had happened under a dem administration?


read:

In mid-July, Tenet sat down for a special meeting with Rice and aides. "George briefed Condi that there was going to be a major attack," says an official; another, who was present at the meeting, says Tenet broke out a huge wall chart ("They always have wall charts") with dozens of threats. Tenet couldn't rule out a domestic attack but thought it more likely that al-Qaeda would strike overseas. One date already worrying the Secret Service was July 20, when Bush would arrive in Genoa for the G-8 summit; Tenet had intelligence that al-Qaeda was planning to attack Bush there. The Italians, who had heard the same report (the way European intelligence sources tell it, everyone but the President's dog "knew" an attack was coming) put frogmen in the harbor, closed airspace around the town and ringed it with antiaircraft guns.

But nothing happened. After Genoa, says a senior intelligence official, there was a collective sigh of relief: "A lot of folks started letting their guard down." After the final deputies' meeting on Clarke's draft of a presidential directive, on July 16, it wasn't easy to find a date for the Principals' Committee to look at the plan-the last stage before the paper went to Bush. "There was one meeting scheduled for August," says a senior official, "but too many principals were out of town." Eventually a date was picked: the principals would look at the draft on Sept. 4. That was about nine months after Clarke first put his plan on paper.


very interesting article...''Could 911 Have Been Prevented?''

it bends over backward to be 'fair' to the Bush junta, and, unless I missed it, does NOT mention that Clarke was demoted from his position as one of the principals at the terror table, or whatever they called it, and is derisive towards him in many instances. it also paints a ridiculous picture of Bush as being decisive and knowledgeable.

it also has a section which distorts Clinton's record on combatting, responding, etc., to terror attacks: making it seem that there were more attacks than actually happened, denigrating his attacks on terror, and saying, for example, he 'got lucky' when terror attacks were thwarted. very anger inducing in spots

in spite of these faults, the information it does present is VERY damning toward the Bush regime
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:19 PM
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25. You can make the case that Clinton got lucky
But so did Bush. Moussaoui getting arrested in August was an unbelievable stroke of luck - a tip to what might happen at a time when the system was blinking red.

Clinton got lucky with the border agents in Canada, but his intelligence and national security people had been meeting daily on the matter and everyone was extremely vigilant.

Luck may play a part, but when you are vigilant, you USE the luck to your benefit. When you are on vacation - physically and mentally - and nobody has any sense of direction or vigilance, the strokes of luck fall by the wayside.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:47 PM
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51. yep.....I was going to put in that part about Clinton bashers calling him
lucky, but I'm too lazy. thanks....you're exactly right about the level of attention paid by the Clinton admin, vs., that paid by Bush's distracted minions.

he WAS fortunate that he had some people on the ground that were interested in following the terrorists' trails, but that good fortune didn't translate into protection.

the fish rots from the head, and the higher up the Bush political corpus one travels, the more disgusting the purulence gets
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:34 PM
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11. Just watch Bush's reaction when asked if he had foreknowledge of 9/11
In the excellent video "9/11-Press for Truth" (which features prominently the Jersey Girls) there is a clip of a news conference where Bush is asked by a brave reporter to respond to Howard Dean's statement (!) that he had foreknowledge of 9/11.

Bush hems and haws and mutters. If you could convict someone just on body language he would be in prison. It's obvious he is really struggling with his answer.

This is the most criminal administration that this country has ever had. The blood of thousands of innocent people is on their head.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:55 PM
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18. HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS. just start with Iraq
one could start talking about other hot spots in the world, in which US intervention could have saved at least that many lives, but that's another story
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:57 PM
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19. That's collateral damage - not dead civilians
We only count dead Americans. All others don't qualify.

And you're right: I believe the estimate of innocent Iraqis killed is over 100K. This is the most shameful time in our history.

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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 04:23 PM
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29. Press for truth - read about it, found a direct link to the entire video
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 04:30 PM by BelgianMadCow
I hope sharing it is okay :

http://www.mediachannel.org/PressForTruth2.htm

on edit : this first one requires some google video plugin which I don't trust,
here's youtube :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYEMu48apIA

second edit : youtube was only a trailer, here's one that works without any special plugin for me :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250&q=9%2F11+press+fo+truth
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:13 PM
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36. I don't think there's that much blood on Duhbya's hands
'cause all that oil makes the blood just slide right off.

Newsprism
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:01 PM
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39. sorry
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 11:01 PM by Skittles
there is no f***ing WAY the neocons would let that incompetent little puppet bastard in on their plans. And the guy hems and haws and mutters and stutters EVERY TIME he is asked an unscripted question.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:39 AM
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44. Probably Dubya was kept in the dark on the details.
I am sure pretty sure Dubya would not have been clued in beforehand as to many specific and in depth details of what would be going down on Sep 11, but in a general way I could see them probably warning him that something big was coming down the pipe and it would be better he not be briefed too extensively on it beforehand (plausible deniability etc.) but Uncle Dick had things under control and therefore when TSHTF he should be prepared to follow all instructions from Uncle Dick to the letter and hold off on ad libbing on his own.

Check out this snip from a post by Peace Patriot on another DU thread. I think PP has captured the essence of the situation.


Taken all in all--the numerous "hair on fire" warnings about Al Qaeda, ignored, and the plain obstructions of tracking Al Qaeda (described above) that the Cabal was engaged in, and a few other facts, like the NORAD stand-down on 9/11 (Rumsfeld), and orchestration of events from the bunker, keeping Bush out of it (Cheney)--I'd have to say that LIHOP (they let it happen) was quite likely, and their purpose was to invade Iraq (and following that, Iran) to get control of Mideast oil. Bush, I would guess, is only dimly aware of the ways that this Cabal arranges things for him--whether making him into a "war president" with 9/11, or fixing the 2004 election with "trade secret" vote counting software. He is almost completely lacking in skills or talent, and has no understanding of how government works. His role is to read "My Pet Goat" (his dimwitted, pre-programmed Orwellian phrases) to the kids (us--or rather, to the war profiteering corporate news monopolies' version of "us" as hate-filled 'christian' yahoos whose kneejerk response to flag-waving is to kick the shit out of fat little kids with glasses, brown immigrants, fags, and peace protesters.) (This Cabal and its news monopolies are into insulting us, I believe.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2548044#2548408


Also be sure to check out the clip from the news conference (if you haven't seen it yet) and watch his reaction to the question about accusations of foreknowledge on his part.

How to Spot a Liar






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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:50 AM
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48. yes, that is plausible
I can also see him guessing that they're behind a lot of things because he knows what they are capable of
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:15 PM
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40. It'll be like going from Yosemite Sam to Daffy Duck ! nt
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:44 PM
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42. You can view that same clip at takebackthemedia.com

Here's the link to "How to Spot a Liar" a flash presentation by Stranger at www.takebackthe media.com :
http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/article.php?story=20040602043135289&query=flash%2Banimation%2Bby%2Bstranger

I agree with your comment. If you want to know what "guilty as sin" looks like, just watch Dubya respond to the reporters question. I get the feeling that the reporter probably thought he was throwing a softball Dubya's way for Dubya to bat out of the park by putting on a real outrage act at the thought that anyone would even suggest he had foreknowledge of 911 and failed to act. Instead Dubya squirms and shuffles, looks guilty as hell, and then mumbles some half hearted disclaimer that it was a ridiculous idea.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:34 PM
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12. The media is giving this administration a pass on all of this.
The press and the pundits are acting as if there is truly no way the administration could have known or prevented 9/11. At what point will they finally see all the evidence that the administration could have known, should have known, and may have known that an attack was coming?

The fact that Rumsfeld stopped flying on comercial air lines after one of these warnings but did not warn the public or the airlines of the threat should be enough to start impeachment proceedings against the lot of them. They let this happen!
x(
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mustang Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 12:08 AM
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43. There were so many opportunities to prevent 9/11
I think it's bull that it couldn't have been prevented. What's the deal with the press never challenging Bush on anything about this.

The Bush/team DISREGARDED information time and time again because they had other agendas. It's stunning to hear about these memos that were going out about hijacked planes, pilots training to only take off, not land, etc. On and On. There was intelligence given to the administration. They had people telling them there was a lot of "chatter" that something terrible was going to happen. So it really wasn't bad intelligence that failed us, it was the administration dismissing the information. The more information that keeps coming out, the more it's so obvious that Bush and his team neglected their duty. They chose not to act. This is a nightmare.

Why isn't the media furious? Why aren't Americans upset? I don't get it.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 06:45 PM
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50. Welcome to DU.
We're all wondering the same thing. x(
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:36 PM
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13. Take that Ann!
:kick:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:45 PM
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14. k&r
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:46 PM
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15. In all seriousness, has a president ever been brought to court
over anything and charged with a criminal count? If not, where does it say that a president cannot be charged with compliance to murder? * needs his ass behind bars!
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 12:47 PM
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16. they were looking for a new pearl harbor . good for the jersey girls. eom
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:30 PM
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20. k & r
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:39 PM
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21. BAM. Spin that, suckers. This needs Giant Legs. K&R
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 01:45 PM by BelgianMadCow
oh well they don't need to, I'm sure it has gotten a couple secs CM time if any.

Gonna have a looksee, this needs legs.

Thank you kpete!

On edit : RS is the ONLY news item on google for "9/11 widows Rice Tenet"
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:42 PM
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22. Theirs is a most concise compendium of BushCo pre-911 'knowledge' ...
...The women who lost their loved ones put it into words:



EXCERPT...

...Those other warnings include, but are not limited to:

    Warnings from leaders of other nations and foreign intelligence apparatus' of terrorist threats

    June 30, 2001 Senior Executive Intelligence Briefing (SEIB) entitled "bin Laden Threats Are Real"

    The threat of President Bush's assassination at the G-8 Summit by al Qaeda in July of 2001 using aircraft to dive bomb the summit building

    July 2001 Phoenix memo, which told of potential terrorists taking flight lessons

    52 FAA warnings five of which mentioned al Qaeda's training for hijacking

    August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Brief entitled "bin Laden Determined to Strike in US"

    National Intelligence Estimate (NIE)entitled "Islamist Extremists Learn to Fly"

    Intelligence agency heads describing themselves with their "hair on fire" to characterize the imminent nature of the threats they were intercepting from Al Qaeda and their sense of urgency in relating them to the Bush Administration

    The arrest of Zacharias Moussaoui in August of 2001

    FBI Agent Harry Samit's 70 unsuccessful attempts to get a FISA Warrant to examine Moussaoui's belongings


SOURCE: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/911_widows_blast_Bush_Administration_over_1006.html


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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 05:59 AM
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46. Wow, 70 unsuccessful FISA requests
I didn't know it was that many.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 11:20 PM
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52. 70 tries for Moussaoui only.
FBI HQ squelched each. For what reason, I can only guess.

Here's what I do know:

Know your BFEE: The Stench of Moussaoui Permeates the Octopus

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x757860
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:38 AM
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53. Thanks, Octafish
I missed that thread (and I never usually miss your threads)!
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 01:56 PM
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24. Do these 9/11 widows have a website
where you can directly find the statement?

I don't seem to find it so far. Not doubting the statement, just looking for the base info.
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:35 PM
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26. Here's the reason for Condi's inaction-very important, K&R

This is from the DU link http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2311116&mesg_id=2311116 Please read the entire post by McCamy Taylor if you have time.

"The only problem with the (pipeline) deal was the Taliban. Starting in February, the Bush administration had begun courting the Taliban. In July and into the early weeks of August, their efforts at wooing Afghanistan's muslim fundamentalist leaders went into high gear as Enron's finances became increasingly troubled. They even went so far as to use a combination carrot/stick policy, offering bribes and threatening bombs.

Tenet could not have picked a worse time than July 10, 2001 to come to Condi Rice and the Bush administration and say "'We have to get serious about hunting down Osama Bin Laden in his hideout somewhere in Afghanistan.'"

Point 2, from this post, "have a National Security Council that understands that it is their job to translate vital information into action."

Condi took action--she passed this hot potato to Ashcroft & Rumsfield by instructing Tenet to brief them; probably figuring that they would have no problem ignoring the warnings since they had far less integrity than, even, she.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:50 PM
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27. The administration's actions taken pre-9-11 to keep us safe in the wake of
numerous warnings of imminent attacks has been lain out for all but the blind to see, all but the deaf to hear, and all but the brain-dean/brainwashed to comprehend.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 04:20 PM
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28. Kick to the pants of the BFEE
We ALL owe the Jersey Girls our democracy.

They've done more to get to the truth about 9-11 than just about everybody else put together.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 04:46 PM
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30. K&R.
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 04:47 PM by Kurovski
I admire all these woman--and that includes Larisa--for keeping on in the face of the worst, most actively deceptive and careless administration in American history.

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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 05:14 PM
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31. all the more reason to believe that 8/6/01 PDB stated "weeks
many many dead, very very big uproar, possibly using hijacked commercial jets as suicide weapons to be crashed into skyscrapers in New York City,Chicago and Washington DC." that was on page 2 paragraph 3 followed by a closing paragraph. What we saw was the sanitized version of the PDB.

Think about it. Bush was told of the rumors that Arabs wanted to learn to fly commercial jets Phoenix Flight Memo, so he orders up a report which was delivered on 8/6/01. Remember what he said to the messenger? Alright
you covered your ass now take a hike.

Also, what would be the purpose of updating bush with just historical information? With the new revelations of
Tenet/Rice meetings in July 01' and the ashcroft "threat assessment" of July 21 01', no doubt what I saw on
April 12 2004 when the PDB was released publicly contained that damaging 3rd paragraph, "WEEKS MANY MANY DEAD
VERY VERY BIG UPROAR, POSSIBLY USING HIJACKED COMMERCIAL JETS AS SUICIDE WEAPONS TO BE CRASHED INTO SKYSCRAPERS IN NEW YORK CITY, CHICAGO AND WASHINGTON DC"

sorry for all the capitals but this needed to be shouted...
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 05:27 PM
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32. Geez I am soooooo sick of these media whore 9/11 widows
:sarcasm:
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:50 PM
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35. I was about to get pissed at your post then I noticed the sarcasm....
Got Fascism Yet?


The core column shown above the firefighter was discovered after the collapse. The angled cut occurs in exactly the manner that shaped charges slice through steel beams to control the way they fall. Notice the hardened once liquid metal. Was thermite used with the shaped charge?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 05:35 PM
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33. k&r 51
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 05:36 PM
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34. bush*'s comment to the CIA briefer that journeyed to Crawford to deliver
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 05:37 PM by Raster
the August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Brief entitled "bin Laden Determined to Strike in US"?

"...all right, you've covered your ass."
:kick:52!
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:43 PM
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37. k&r


:kick:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:17 PM
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38. "The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties."
Some sources who have read the still-secret congressional report say some sections would not play quite so neatly into White House plans. One portion deals extensively with the stream of U.S. intelligence-agency reports in the summer of 2001 suggesting that Al Qaeda was planning an upcoming attack against the United States--and implicitly raises questions about how Bush and his top aides responded. One such CIA briefing, in July 2001, was particularly chilling and prophetic. It predicted that Osama bin Laden was about to launch a terrorist strike "in the coming weeks," the congressional investigators found. The intelligence briefing went on to say: "The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests. Attack preparations have been made. Attack will occur with little or no warning."

The substance of that intelligence report was first disclosed at a public hearing last September by staff director Hill. But at the last minute, Hill was blocked from saying precisely who within the Bush White House got the briefing when CIA director Tenet classified the names of the recipients. (One source says the recipients of the briefing included Bush himself.) As a result, Hill was only able to say the briefing was given to "senior government officials."


That CIA briefing in July 2001, was that the July 10, 2001 meeting Tenet had with Rice???

Excerpt from:
The Secrets of September 11
Michael Isikoff & Mark Hosenball
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3180.htm
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:20 PM
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41. Indubitably it is. Good catch ...
Unless they were meeting about some Enron related pipeline business with the Taliban and with India of course and this business of OBL was seen as just a distraction !
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 05:53 AM
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45. k&r
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 07:03 AM
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47. Thank you!!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 11:51 AM
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49. Thanks, an R from me
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