Uh oh...KO seems to be helping set up the "Democrats can't win" meme.

His talking-head guest Chris Czsszzlszlz (sp?) is pointing out that most people are still going to vote for their local reps and don't care about Iraq, pedophiles, etc, and nothing will change.

In fairness, Czsszzlszlz claims that the new numbers indicate that a Dem victory is "plausible." But the story seems to be "Oh well, this is nothing new...people will vote for security."

Soften 'em up. Get 'em ready for the amazing election results. We're already getting the "boy, it's soooooo close" crap already, when the race isn't even close at all.

We've been through this before. I hope we aren't falling for it again.

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... and much appreciated!

They were mainly talking about how many seats were needed and which were most likely wins. It sounded pretty positive to me, over all.

It seemed to me like the guy was trying to present a plausible explanation of how the 'pubs can still win because the American people just don't care about this kind of stuff.

I guess I didn't hear it right...I'll try again.

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:shrug: At least it seemed that way to me...

people still vote for "the person" in their state.

It will be close and I'm not at all sure we'll win.

Wanna do something about it? Volunteer with Howard Dean if you can take the day off November 7. He'll put you to work.

I guess that is what I got out of it, too. We all bitch about everyone else's Congressman, then go ahead and re-elect our own. So nothing changes. We always think it's the guy in the other district that is screwing things up, not My Rep, who just got our town more money for the new Community Center project. So the cycle perpetuates. If we can't hold our own reps up to the same standard (disgust?) of everyone else's reps, how will this ever change?

Here's a fun quiz...How many of you reading this plan on re-electing your own rep?

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Got something against Dave Obey?

What is his voting record, party affiliation, etc? What are the "pertinents?" Why do you support him? Did he build a bridge in your town, or has he really, honestly fought to uphold your Constitutional rights?

Explain to me why YOUR rep should be re-elected, but every other rep in the country must go.

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Rangel can stay too.

Obey's liberal, antiwar, minority leader of the House Appropriations Committee, etc.

Here are some snippets from his web page:

Obey Says Fight To Increase Minimum Wage Will Continue

Appropriation Committee Report: Opportunity Costs of the War in Iraq

Obey Warns of Global Warming on Earth Day Tour

Obey's Plan to Take Private Money Out of Politics

Bulletin: College Costs Rise as Aid Lags

Obey named Outstanding Legislator of the Year by the Association of the United States Army

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My Senator is Joe Lieberman.

Any wonder why I'm depressed?

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Although I do have Liddy Dole and Richard Burr as my senators. At least you have a "pretend" democrat... it could be worse. :scared:

and it's WAY PAST TIME for him to GO.

It's more like 80-20 in each individual district. Maybe not quite that bad but one gets the idea.

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Is it a hissing sound or a buzzing sound?

"Czsszzlszlz" :rofl:

They really hate our optimism, don't they? We believe we can overcome and it just kills 'em to admit it might be so.

Kinda sounds like a snake to me ... both his name and the tone of his comments.

We need everyone to stay mad and work hard for another 4 weeks. This election is far from in the bag and we need to believe we're 5 to 10 points down in every race.

Just like we hate when the corporate media decides an issue for us, let's not let them decide this election. It has to be won on the ground...and it has to be won as if Foley never existed.

My greatest fear since the Busbee election last Spring is not Repugnicans staying home, but Democrats. Votes that we took for granted but never bothered to follow up on and get to the polls.

So if you're pissed at Keith, be pissed at Kos as well and several others who refuse to think Democrats will win control of either House this fall. I'm of that mindset, too...since I'd rather be pleasantly surprised the day after the election for once rather than bitterly let down.

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:hi: Thanks for this- i think it's easy to get ahead of onesself and assume that we're gonna win big without putting in the effort to make sure that we do so!

which was put in place a long time ago by Delay. It's that redistricting that puts a fly in the ointment and should not be overlooked.

Someone can find the transcript if they want, I'll rely on my ears.

He said "throw the bums out" basically, vote'em all out if you want real change.

THEN...............

Keith asked him if he planned to vote for the incumbents (by name) where he is registered.

And to each name he said "Yes".

The only thing that saved him, in my eyes, was that they were all CA Dems.