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thinksmart Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:17 PM
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Frontline on PBS (running now)
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 08:19 PM by thinksmart
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:20 PM
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1. Oh no, stuck in a Lodi again. n/t
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:21 PM
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2. Everyone should watch this
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 08:23 PM by Marie26
About how Pakistani immigrants were arrested w/no evidence at all. Boston put on high alert for weeks based on a hoax, Miami 7 case actually provoked by FBI informant, etc.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:49 PM
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7. I think sometimes they just want to put so much fear in the
American people, and will say or do anything, and be fearful of any Muslim looking person. Just my opinion. I give credit to that ex FBI lawyer to see how those agents were just putting words into those guys who they thought were terrorists.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:22 PM
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3. watching now very good so far
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gtimeflys Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:34 PM
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4. ya very intresting.....not to get off topic but i think yas might like
this 
bill moyers .i caught the one on   " capital crimes
"
...holy smokes..!
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/index.html   :puke: 
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:44 AM
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11. Hi gtimeflys!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:35 PM
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5. Interesting
- Of 471 terrorism cases since 9/11, only 5% have resulted in actual terrorism charges.

- FBI agent says "JAL plot" has come closest to a real terrorist attack - JAL plot involves 4 members of a prison gang who robbed gas stations, nothing to do w/Al-Queda at all. No evidence of any effort to recruit Al-Queda in prisons, as FBI Director Mueller claimed.

- In threat assesment testimony before Congress, Negroponte only talked about two cases - Lodi & JAL prison gang.

Frontline is implying that the threat from "home-grown" terrorism is overblown.
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:48 PM
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6. shocking
I knew the Lodi case was bad but this is just
untenable. Its basically all one giant
belligerent entrapment attempt. Its unbelievable.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 09:05 PM
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10. It is unbelievable.
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 09:14 PM by Marie26
Of the two cases Negroponte described as the clearest "terrorist plots" within America, one is a gang of 4 gas station robbers, and one is a case of false confession. THAT'S IT? That's why we need to rescind habeas corpus, allow warrantless wiretaps, shred the Constitution, create enemy combatants, allow Bush unlimited power, allow Pentagon to spy on dissident groups etc. etc. etc? It was disturbing to see how the FBI informants basically tried to push people into criminal activity in both the Lodi & Miami 7 case. It almost seems like the FBI needed to create some "terrorists" to justify the massive expenditures & massive hysteria about terrorist plots. The Frontline documentary makes a convincing case that "the enemy within" is mostly a myth created by the government to justify over-reaching intrusions into privacy & civil liberties.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:49 PM
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8. my local PBS channel just went black
right when they start interviewing the FBI! Not all of the cable jut PBS!

No tinfoil required in my house! :grr:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:51 PM
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9. If you can't get it now...
it will be on the website at 1 AM Eastern Standard Time.
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