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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:36 AM
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BUSH SAYS AMERICAN PSYCHE TOO WEAK FOR WAR
If we were to see THAT headline in all the papers tomorrow, this republican mess could be put to bed.

He SAID it. Please REPORT it.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:37 AM
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1. What exactly did he say?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:39 AM
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Bush: War 'Straining' American Psyche
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:42 AM
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6. It's true...
only if you realize that everything that comes out of his mouth is either an outright lie or projection.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:39 AM
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2. He should know.
The guy likes to pretend he was in the Special Forces. But he defines the word "coward."
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:41 AM
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3. He's not a warrior, but he played one on a battleship.
Even my husband says he has trouble looking at his face anymore without getting angry. And he is apolitical.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:43 AM
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7. He's* not a president either but he plays one on tv. nt
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 10:43 AM by Javaman
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:41 AM
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4. Back in ancient and medieval times, kings led their
armies into war. Shouldn't Shrubby be doing the same before casting stones?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:42 AM
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5. What the F? does he mean by that?
:wtf:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:52 AM
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14. It' means his Rambo bubble vision of the American People just popped
You know the vision where we never get hit by bullets or shrapnel, and our weapons never run out of ammo no matter how many times we shoot. I believe Bush viewed the movie and was impressed by it's simplicity a few years after he went AWOL, fearing the Viet Cong were going to over run Alabama.:scared:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:43 AM
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8. what a stain
what a disgusting blot this cretinous degenerate is
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:44 AM
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9. Bush's psyche is too weak for peace!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:47 AM
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10. Great response!!!!
I love it!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:56 AM
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18. absolutely
nicely put.
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PreacherCasey Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:48 AM
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11. The human mind is adverse to war by nature.
It has nothing to do with the "American" psyche as opposed to the collective psyche of any other country, as if there even is such a thing. I'm growing very tired of hearing this man's ignorant little catch phrases every time he speaks.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:50 AM
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12. Apparently, this is a new "buzz phrase" he has used it before, recently;
American Psyche
George Bush says Iraq is draining for America. He should see what it’s doing to the Iraqis.


WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY
By Michael Hastings
Newsweek
Updated: 6:03 p.m. ET Aug 23, 2006
Aug. 23, 2006 - Is Iraq the latest stage for an American psychodrama? President George W. Bush seems to think so. His remarks earlier this week about how the war is "straining America's psyche" suggest that the key to winning is preventing a nervous breakdown on a national scale. He defined the terms of the crisis like so: "If we ever give up the desire to help people who want to live in a free society, we will have lost our soul as a nation." Iraq itself is no longer just a battleground for the war on terror; it is no longer only a Mideast country to act as a model democracy; it is a place where our innermost being is up for grabs. That strain we feel is both spiritual and mental. At stake in this war for Arab hearts and minds is our American soul.

Sound familiar? I was reminded of all the Vietnam films I'd watched as a kid. There's a simple message in each of them, from “Platoon” to “Full Metal Jacket.” The war is about us, not them. Vietnam is merely the setting for Americans to understand what it means to be an American. What moral choices do we make? What is our national identity? How much strain on the psyche can we take before we crack? Did we lose our soul somewhere between Saigon and Hanoi? Those same questions are starting to be asked about Iraq—support for the war is at an all-time low—and the president was forced to acknowledge them.

In the classic Vietnam flicks, America's own national identity crisis is almost always more important than the country where the war is actually being fought. Oliver Stone's “Platoon” gives us the idealistic young soldier (played by Charlie Sheen) caught between the '60s radical (Willem Defoe) and the hard-nose realist (Tom Berenger.) The film ends with an airstrike being called on American troops; Sheen’s private kills Berenger’s sergeant, and Defoe is dramatically gunned down. America at war with itself, its own morals and national character locked in battle. In Brian De Palma's “Casualties of War”—a movie about a squad of soldiers who kidnap a Vietnamese girl and rape her on a long-range patrol—we see the same thing. The Vietnamese aren't the enemies; the struggle is over America's conscience. (To the point, the recent accusations leveled against Steven Green and some fellow soldiers accused of raping a 14-year-old girl bear eerie similarities to the film.) Or in “Apocalypse Now,” based loosely on Joseph Conrad's novel “Heart of Darkness,” when the hero finds his Mr. Kurtz in the form of Marlon Brando. The most influential Vietnam memoir, “Dispatches”—written by Michael Herr, who also worked on the “Apocalypse Now” screenplay—ends with this line: "Vietnam Vietnam Vietnam, we've all been there." Of course we haven't literally, as Tom Bissell recently pointed out in Salon. It's a state of mind where nothing is as it seems, a line that captures what Vietnam meant for Americans, not for the Vietnamese.

more...

Hmmm...




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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:55 AM
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17. the Psyche-Babble from the August press conference:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/08/20060821.html

THE PRESIDENT: Frustrated? Sometimes I'm frustrated. Rarely surprised. Sometimes I'm happy. This is -- but war is not a time of joy. These aren't joyous times. These are challenging times, and they're difficult times, and they're straining the psyche of our country. I understand that. You know, nobody likes to see innocent people die. Nobody wants to turn on their TV on a daily basis and see havoc wrought by terrorists. And our question is, do we have the capacity and the desire to spread peace by confronting these terrorists, and supporting those who want to live in liberty? That's the question. And my answer to that question is, we must. We owe it to future generations to do so.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:51 AM
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13. Show me the war! Show me the war! What war, Asshat? The one on
an intimidation tactic? The Occupation of Iraq or Afghanistan?
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:52 AM
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15. Hey asshole
go back to playing Call of Duty and whacking off to Saving Private Ryan if you love war so much and stop endangering Americans to satisfy your sick violence fetish!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:54 AM
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16. is he saying Americans are weak, Fuck you George
your party is over Nov. 7th.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:01 AM
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19. MSNBC reporting plans are we're staying in Iraq until 2010!!
Does that wear on your psyche just a bit??!

Fuckers!!
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